Brand New Dsl40c - Speakers:

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    Robert Herndon Project Well-Known Member

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    I see so many Creambacks....isn't it the G12M-65 that has the best tonal response in a single 12" application????
     
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    You see a lot of Creambacks here because Sweetwater Music offered the amp with that particular speaker upgrade at no additional cost.
    Also the stock speaker 70/80 is a less expensive speaker in the line and many want to upgrade to a more responsive / toneful speaker, according to their preference.
    Quite a few find the 70/80 quite decent when broken in. And that's all I know. lol
     
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    People were putting creambacks in their 40c's way before sweetwater offered it because it's a great sounding combo/upgrade. That's why you see it so often.

    As far as which driver has the best tonal response, that's all subjective. Potatoes potatoes.
     
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    And that's why Sweetwater started their DSL/Creamback offer.
    Subjectivity is relative. lmao. Tomatoes tomatoes
     
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    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, there are probably as many folks digging the Vintage 30 in this amp as the Creamback.

    I like them both, but, I have a Gold in there right now.

    Willie
     
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    I think the stock 70/80 sounds ok....but think the Creamback may be a bit smoother....
     
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    Actually another nice speaker in the DSL40C is the Eminence CV-75.
     
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    I played it with the stock 70/80 for about an hour and saw no point in keeping it in since I had some better speakers available. I tried G12M EVH Greenback (be careful with this one - rated 20W), G12K-100, G12T-75, & G12-65 all were huge upgrades over the stock speaker.
     
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    My personal experience -
    The DSL40C is a pretty good amp with the stock Seventy 80 speaker.
    The DSL40C is a great amp with a Vintage 30.
     
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    I'm considering a G12M-65 for my amp....I saw a video where several speakers were demo'd in this amp back to back and the Creamback was tonally amazing
     
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    Let the 70/80 break in for some hours at volume. Decent speakers then.

    Mine after a couple months:

     
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    Definitely and when you expand to an extension cab pair it with their Veteran 30 as recommended on their web ste
     
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    Veteran 30.....30 watts?
     
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    Have you looked into Celestion Classic Lead?
     
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    Hey, Gents...

    Thought no would post this response from my inquiry to WGS. His response was based on a detailed description of my setup and tone goals, plus a recording of my current tone...

    "Robert,


    In this line of work, one of the speakers I hear about the most is the 70/80 in the DSL40C. So much so that I have kind of a standard reply to the question; I almost always recommend the Reaper HP, because it’s pretty tried and true with this amp. It makes a world of difference from the 70/80 and everyone seems to love the combination.


    That said, I have a more specific idea based on your preferences. For you, I would consider the ET90. By comparison, this speaker has quite a bit more headroom on tap than the Reaper HP, and has a warmer feel overall. Other differences are that the ET90 has a bit more of a scooped quality to the midrange, where the Reaper is what I would call “balanced”, without the scoop. Either speaker will do great in this amp. It just comes down to what you want out of your speaker.


    Thanks,


    Trevor English
    WGS....."
     
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    Robert Herndon Project Well-Known Member

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    .....And the response from Celestion when given the same question and supporting data:

    Hi Robert –

    The G12M-65 Creamback is proving to be a very popular upgrade for the DSL40C, so you could do a lot worse than consider that option.

    I’d also throw the V-Type into the mix, its versatility would give you lots of options and it’s a very “musical” speaker.

    Check out some tone samples of these and other speakers here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2B5D46028A98E612

    Regards,

    The Doc

    Dr. Decibel, Celestion, Claydon Business Park, Great Blakenham, Ipswich IP6 0NL, UK
    +44 (0)1473 835300;

    [email protected];
     
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    Many V-types with different colors!
     
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    And the response from WGS about speaker break-in:

    Robert,

    I forgot to add the part about break in procedure. One preferred method is: if you have a looping pedal, make a guitar loop, turn the amp volume up enough to get the speaker moving, (you’ll know when it's moving), and let it play while you’re out of the house. You could even lay the amp down with the speaker facing the floor to minimize noise. Our speakers generally take about 12hrs of playing time to be fully broken in.

    Thanks again,

    Trevor English
    WGS
    (270)-321-1003
     

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