Best Marshall to replace 2205

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  1. Ken Stewart

    Ken Stewart New Member

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    G'day Champions, I have a JCM 800 2205 and a JVM 410H, and would like to acquire another Marshall to my arsenal. I love the sound of the gain channel on the 2205; what would sound similar? I am thinking maybe a 2203 or 2203 reissue, what about the SC20H, does it really sound like a 2203? Maybe even a 900? I am in Australia and don't have a lot of choice available. Open to all options.

    Many Thanks.
     
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  2. Chris-in-LA

    Chris-in-LA Well-Known Member

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    The drive channel of the 2205 has diodes, might be more like a Jubilee.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    You got that crazy JVM, why not go for something simple like a 2203/2204 or 1959/1987, or go small with a SC20 or SV20. :yesway:
     
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    Silver Jubilee is an upgrade on the 2205 imho.
     
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    PelliX Well-Known Member

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    I'm biased towards the SC20 as I'm a happy owner, but I would avoid diodes in the signal path, honestly. Not that I'm one of those people who believe a single diode will entirely ruin the amplifier, but if they're in there, they're in there. To me it makes more sense to get an amp without and if, for some reason, you decide you want some diode clipping, you can add that to the signal chain. The SC20 brings the JCM800 tone very well but with a cathode biased output stage - which has its charms. Absolutely dentical, but a little less loud? No, that it's not.
     
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    Vintage Modern or Jubilee
     
  7. scozz

    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Since you are looking for something “similar” to your 2205, I would suggest a 2204. Both 50 watt Marshalls with similar heritage. :cool:
     
  8. scozz

    scozz Well-Known Member Gold Supporting Member

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    I just realized your post title says “replace 2205” @Ken Stewart.

    I thought for, some reason, you’re looking for an amp to compliment your 2205. However I’ll stick with my original suggestion.

    I’m curious, are you selling your 2205?
     
  9. Kinkless Tetrode

    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    The 2205 overdrive channel has a lot more gain than a 2204. If you go that route you will probably find your self needing a pedal to get back the 2205 level of gain.

    Some options:
    JCM900 MKIII (similar distortion enhancing technology as a 2205)
    JCM900 SLX (a MKIII with an extra pre-amp tube instead)
    Silver Jubilee ( forget about how they did it and just enjoy how great a good one of these sounds)
     
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  10. marshallmellowed

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    When I read "replace", I take it as "upgrade". My suggestion would be a 2203 (or 2204), and add a Hot Mod V2. A 2203x (which has an FX loop) is my preference, but depends on whether you need an FX loop. IMO, for a master volume amp, the 2203x "Is" the ultimate Marshall rock & roll machine. The only thing the 2203 lacks (again, IMO) is just a little more gain, which the Hot Mod V2 provides (no mods necessary). The result, is the same (or more) overdrive than the rhythm clip channel of a Jubillee or 2205, and the upper mid voicing of the JCM800. If a 2203 is out of your range, I'd suggest the SC20, which does a very good 20w representation of the 2203. I agree with PelliX statement, regarding diode clipping. While there's nothing wrong with it, I prefer to keep the clipping diodes outside the amp (pedals...).
     
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  11. FleshOnGear

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    I say Silver Jubilee. It should be pretty easy to find a used 2555X or grab a new one. Or, if you want to collect, get an original.
     
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    The Artist 30 is closer to the 2204 than the 2204 is to the 2205, tonally. The point being how the tone is shaped is just as important as how much gain an amp has or how it clips. The voicing of the 2205/10 and its EQ are pretty unique.



    I used to have an Artist 30 but had to go back and listen to a couple of demos. It’s crazy how close it sounds to a 2204.
     
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  13. Kelia

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    The 2205 I had made me forget about diodes because no other amp has giving me
    this fat juicy greasy lead tone , not even a Slash 2555 .
    Missed mine so I bought another one but it has channel bleed issue like I've never heard before
    and it's a 1989 which is supposed to be fine as far as channel bleed goes, so it's sitting at PWE AmplificationTed Stevenson's place
    for a full check up and he has carte blanche to make it sound awesome and I'm sure he will .
     
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    I'm guessing a DSL50 or TSL60. Or maybe even a JVM 205H.
     
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    Wait, you ALREADY have one and it works fine?

    Then buy a 5150/6505-family amp or a Recto or a Mark. Or a PRS, they're surprisingly awesome.
     
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    gregr Well-Known Member

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    Splawn Quick Rod?
     
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    1959/1987
     
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    Ufoscorpion Well-Known Member

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    Nope , correct answer is Friedman runt 50 .
     
  19. marshallmellowed

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    Title of post... "Best Marshall to replace 2205"
     
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    A 2205 has more gain/drive than a 2203 or 2204. Just FYI. If you want a high gain tone, you'll need to boost a 2203/2204.
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