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Discussion in 'Other Amps' started by jchrisf, Aug 22, 2020.
Knowing Nik it's probably a better amp at about 25% the price.
Anyone played the Asshole 100 ? When I read the thread title I immediately assumed it was about some drunken Frathouse Hazing ritual. I guess my mind will never get out of the gutter.
Every Marshall modder from the last 30 years owes Jose Arredondo’s family money IMO. All of them are derived from Jose’s original concepts.
A select few get it right.
dont wish to rattle cages here but.....
check out the dimensions & design of the Friedman cabs.. and wonder at the "similarity" to other brands
check out the schematics (and dimensions) of Friedman amps like the BE.. and wonder at the "similarity" to other brands
Check out the design of the Friedman guitar bodies.. and wonder at the "similarity" to other brands
Its all copied from and based on other designs, be it Marshall, Fender or Gibson.. they are the victims here, not Friedman.
But, IF you believe in the capitalist system and accept that any engineer can mod a marshall amp and get a different sound, then realise that he could make that entire circuit as an amp and charge boutique prices for a design that is <1% his own intellectual property, or can simply copy a Strate or a tele and launch guitars then you need to accept that Nik cloning amps is also acceptable as your morals/ethics/legal argument has zero foundation.
I think if I had to pick one version of the José’ design it would be the ceriatone molecular clone of a Cameron’s clone of a José’ ... ok I’m lost now lol.
I like the Molecular and the Chupacabra they put out, as well as a few others. My favorite British tones are Jose modded Plexi's, by far, and these seem to do a great job as well as being made extremely well.
The market demands a Major clone called the Whole Ass.
A lot of Friedman haters here..
And a BIG F’n AMEN to that, Sir!
People building on other people's ideas is how technology used to work. Large corporations have lobbied to abuse the copyright system for their own benefit. Those same companies moved manufacturing to China where those ideas are stolen and spread around. I just don't understand Friedmans arguement here. If it's ok for him to sell Marshall clones why can't Ceriatone do the same?
Nope, I don't hate the guy nor his products, I just don't share his way of thinking (or that of his die hard followers). "Hate" is far too much in any sense tho.
I think the whole "clone" thing is crap. The entire reason all these amp companies like Friedman even exist is because Marshall owners wanted the amps "modded". Almost every amp company like Friedman, Splawn, etc., started modding Marshall amps, to "make a better amp". Then they realized they could just use what they had learned to make their own version of an amp, based on their mod's. Nik's amp's are better amp's in a lot of way's to me, if nobody makes one just like it, build quality, sound, cost, how is it a clone in the first place. If it does bother you that someone started with an amp other's made, don't look at Marshall.
Marshall ripped off the 1959 Fender Bassman with the JTM45... just sayin
I have and play both
Just felt compelled to drop in and say, as a proud Ceriatone owner, I'm glad to see Nik finally getting props. He's doing a service.
When I bought this thing 10 years ago, a lot of snobs rolled their eyes. Well, I can't tell any appreciable difference between this thing and a Marshall. Honestly, I've only played a few Marshalls out there that even really match it.
But, that's opinion I guess.
I like the look with no name on it, I wish I had done that with my Chupacabra. I'm going to order another one pretty soon, but with a second chan. and 100w. That one will be all black kinda like the Molecular, and maybe a question mark instead of a name plate. I'll bet the snobs took notice when they heard that amp. I can tell you my Chupa is by far the best Brit toned amp I'v ever played, and there is no amp like it I would trade it for.