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Any body tell me what I have here?

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    C-Grin Well-Known Member

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    So I picked up this cabinet from the local craigs list and its kind of a take it or leave it deal, but he said there were Chinese greenbacks in it. I gave $130 bux for this, did I do OK?
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    but what I find when opening it up are these
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    and they say made in England on the frame KIMG0360.JPG
    so on top of that they are wired with multiple ohm plug in jacks that say one for 4 and one for 16 ohm. But I am reading one at 26 ohm and one at 6 ohm. Obviously that will have be dealt with. But what do I have here?
     
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    C-Grin Well-Known Member

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    More markings on the frame

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    I guess the speaker that came with the cab originally were 8 ohm and these are 16 so the ohm jack is now 8 ohm so no worries there. But I am just not familiar with Celestions, are these in fact real greenbacks and how old are they? By looking at the wire connections at the speaker they definitely are not from any of the newer built greenbacks I have seen or had.
     
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    fitz288 Well-Known Yinzer Silver Supporting Member

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    I'm no expert, but Bygone has some info on the website.
    Celestion Date Codes, Stamps & Dating Speakers - Bygone Tones
    I cant quite make out the codes on your frames.
    They kinda look like the real thing to me.
     
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    I think you have a g12m and a g12-65.

    Pull them out so we can see the dust cap to know for sure.
     
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    I've only had a few minutes to plug it and in after making sure what ohms I was at and they sound pretty damn good,
    here they are
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    Better shots of the markings
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    So after some digging it looks like a G12H30 and a G12M25 both from 68, I think. What's the thought on playing a 50 + year old speaker regularly?
     
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    fitz288 Well-Known Yinzer Silver Supporting Member

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    What an awesome find.
    For $130, I'd crank 'em till they flame out.
    Sell them or use them, they're not for looking at.
     
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    Appear to be the original pulsonic cones with original dust caps (meaning they were not previously repaired), quite some dirt on them but at least no major repair jobs. Combining both speakers is probably not the best idea due to difference in sensitivity, you will mostly hear the G12H. Have you checked for coil rub and attachment/glue of the spiders? For 130$ that's a score, the two most sought after Celestion greenbacks.
     
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    Seriously? Somebody put collectible 1960's Celestions in a pressed toilet paper Bugera cab???
     
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    Are the vintage speakers different than CP for sensitivity?
    I thought a difference of 2dB is no big deal.
    (CP H30 - 100dB, G25 - 98dB)
    I run a 212 with a V30 (100dB) and a T75 (97dB), think it sounds better than 2 V30's.
    Just trying to learn stuff, not being a jagoff.
     
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    Indeed correct you have 100 dB/W for the G12H and 97 dB/W at 1m for the G12M. In loudness this is a factor 2 difference. I would say this is significant, but if it sounds good to your ears then that's the most important thing. Also for recording is doesn't really matter
     
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    Congrats, that is a crazy price, You did good :applause:
     
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    Mmm-Hmmm, black tabs are good! Great score and good job!
     
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    Unbelievable! What a score. Some guys have all the luck, right?
     
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    I was just shocked when I opened it up, I was half expecting to open it and find 70/80's or something. But this is the first time something like this has happened in my favor. They guy who sold it to me is a lifelong musician who has played with some big acts and is selling everything and moving to another country. He had a 1960 esquire he asked if wanted to buy for 10 K, if I could have found a way I would have bought that too. Hell I don't even want the cabinet I just thought for the price of one Chinese greenback what the hell. I guess I need to do something good now to keep the Karma going.
     
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    So now I'm gonna need to get a proper Marshall, maybe I will find a Plexi for like 250$ ?:lol:
     
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    Try running that O20C through them.
    You might be trading that combo for a proper O20H.
     
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