Hi All, first time poster. I have been doing a lot of searching but I can't seem to get a definite answer. Does the 1960A cab now come with G12T-75's made in China? If so what year did they start doing that? The reason I ask is, a person selling a 1960A on ebay said the cab contained Chinese made G12T-75's
Celestion International has been owned by a Hong Kong company since 1992, I think. For a while the speakers were assembled in the UK with Chinese parts. Now they are assembled in China as well- which is probably a better business model. Everything is manufactured in China now. I've never heard anyone complain that there was a drop in quality between UK assembled Celestions and Chinese assembled Celestions.
I've read a lot of people complaining about the Chinese speakers who don't own them...I can't recall anyone who owns them say they're not any good. Ken
I had 3 cabs with the G12T-75, all with the UK version of the speakers. The older ones with the block lettering sounded sweeter than the newer ones with the black stripe label. Even comparing 2 JCM900 cabs with UK made G12T-75 Celestions, there was a difference in tone. The older speakers sounded better. This was done during a blind test with all three cabs. Only one person knew which speakers were in each cab. I suspect that the Chinese made G12T-75 don't sound the same because they're newer and not as broken in as older speakers. I've never owned them but when I lent my older JCM900 cab to a guitarist here in town, he was surprised at how better my cab sounded compared to his with the Chinese speakers.
I am a die hard American and with that comes a strong anti-communist mindset in which I try to avoid Chinese made products. I do own Marshall cabs with Chinese Celestions and I can't say they don't sound good. I've never looked at them but assuming they are Chinese since my cabs aren't that old. Don't know what part of the world you're from but I'm wanting to sell all my G12T-75's in my two cabinets and buy Veteran 30 speakers from Warehouse. Made in the U.S.A. and for a more fair price. I would buy American made amps too but Marshall's just sound too damn good. The Brit's know what's up in that department!
I have read o few things on line that state the veteran 30's from speakerwarehouse sound even better than the celestion v 30's !! nothing is like a marshall , thats for sure!!!
The new Celestion V30 speaker I bought last year sounds good. So I don't know if the debate is whether or not the ones in England or China are better. I would say that the reason why is because they are broken in while the newer ones may not be yet. Give the speakers time.
it would be interesting to see a shootout between the two mentioned above. vintage 30 v/s veteran 30 !!!!!
I've got two china made greenbacks and two british made greenbacks in the same cabinet after blowing up two of them. The cabinet sounds the same to me as before.
i had 2 of my G12H 30's reconed , and one of my biggest fears was that after it was redone it would not sound the same , but after they broke in , i moved those two to the top of my cab cause they sounded a bit more " lively" 25 watt green backs g12h30s 2 great speakers from celestion !!!
I heard, if my information is correct, that the only difference is that the parts are sent from England to China to put together. So, it's really just the same thing but different location. Shouldn't be much of a problem with sound quality or anything.
I have one cab with three chinese V30's and one UK V30, can't here any difference. It's all bulshitt that chinese speakers sound worse, you have to break in them good, afterwords they sound just the same as the older ones!
Q:Where are the current Celestion speakers manufactured (England or China)? A: CELESTION COMMENTS ON COUNTRY OF ORIGIN FOR MANUFACTURING Celestion has been manufacturing products in the UK since 1924. Nearly 10 years ago, Gold Peak, a Hong Kong based company, purchased Celestion and Kef in the UK. Gold Peak is a large manufacturer in the Far East and builds for JBL, Fender, QSC, Samson, and many others. Their factories are first rate and in fact, do not offer the typical low cost manufacturing for which China is known. In the last few years, Celestion determined they would need to relocate from their site in Ipswich as the factory was very old, run down, and inefficient. Looking in the UK, Europe, and the Far East, it was evident that using the existing company facilities in China was the best alternative to keep up with record demand levels and continue to match performance. Earlier in 2003, Celestion began moving most production to China. The products still manufactured in the UK, in a brand new facility, include the AlNiCo Blue & Gold, G12M & G12H Heritage, and all Neo Products, including Century/Century Vintage/ BL Neo. Celestion doesn’t manufacture piece parts in this factory, so the paper cone assemblies could very well still be sourced from the original supplier in the UK. That is simply a supply chain decision. The early boxes coming out of China were not always marked with the county of origin, current production boxes should be clearly marked now as to country of origin. In November 2003, Celestion flew the editors from most of the major Guitar and Music Trade publications to the UK to outline their manufacturing strategy and give them a preview of the new Celestion speakers. We should start seeing the articles in print by January 2004. Celestion’s experience with the actual performance of the Far East product has been excellent. In fact, they’ve reported a more consistent result driver to driver across production runs. Their “blind tests”, with all of their major OEM customers have been successful, and Celestion’s business continues to grow at record levels. It's important to consider that Celestion did NOT go to an outside contract manufacturing company for production (like some other speaker manufacturers) – they used an existing company owned facility in China that had been making the Truvox range of lower cost guitar speakers for years. That's all for this one folks.
How come there is no uproar over this like there was with the Vietnamese DSL amps, designed by Marshall in the UK but outsourced to Asia for manufacture?
Are the Chinese versions marked as such? I just picked up a 1960A cab (for 300 bucks!) made in what I believe is 2007 and the speakers are the G12T-75's and are marked Ipswich, England as in the pic. Can't see any indication of them being made in China......
The early stuff wasn't marked "Mfg. china" in some cases for years... (I'm told) But all G12T-75s by the end of 2002 were Chinese made Still an amazing speaker - I love them
