I know it's probably an exhausted topic, but can anyone chime in as to what speakers they have used to switch out from the stock ones in the 1960A? I have a carvin 2x12 with V30's If I added those two and mixed them in with two stock G12-75's...would it tame the highs a bit? If so, what pattern would I use? Thanks!!!!
Depends on the Amp and the tones or genre of music you play. V30s, to me only sounded good with a Jubilee or my JVM....and only in the context of live play or full band mix. I never cared for the mix of V-30s with the GT75s. I don't think the mix would tame the highs.. Are you playing just by yourself? How far from the amp/speaker cab do you stand? Could just be the angle projecting at you that you dont like. *Personally, I like the 1960B cabs and standing 6' in front and 1 ft to the side of straight line projection. Look at the EQ charts on Celestions Website.
I'm gradually replacing the T75's in my 1960a with Greenbacks and they sound great together. The Greenbacks fill in the middle frequencies and the 75's fill in the deeper stuff and take away the harsher aspects. Kinda sounds like old Greenbacks to me.
I have gotten the best results to date with my 2203 driving a 4x12 full of greenbacks. (Reissues, but nicely broken in.) I believe it's a classic choice that's never the wrong one. Greenbacks have a nice round tone with less treble (and bass) than G12T75s.
check it ,what i'm using now with a jcm 900 50 watt and a jcm 800 100 watt ,2 heads 3 cabs ,i can get 7 different amp/speaker combinations .
I know they are a bit pricey, but its hard to beat those Celestion Neo Creambacks for tone and weight saving.
You're going to get dozens of different answers. Just skimming over who's already replied and no two are the same. But to directly answer your question, I put a quad of Creamback G12M-65 speakers in mine. I have four 4x12 cabs and I have to say my EVH 412 might be my favorite. That one has EVH signatures (20w Heritage Greenbacks) in it. Every single amp I plug into it sounds good. If you have those two from the Carvin on hand and want to experiment, try both an X pattern and also try the G12T-75s across the bottom/V30s on top. Since you have an angled cab whichever speakers are on the top will throw off what are more perceived highs. That's why I say try the 75s across the bottom.
↑ Good suggestion. & Good to take the extra step and practice placing Bottom on floor if it is does not require constant relocation. You will find some of the illusive Brown Beef that has always been there that you thought was missing in your sound, or tone. All the Celestion speakers suggested are fine. YMMV GL
You have the two V30's, so what are you waiting for? Give them a good try out. When you have finished playing around...…..put the G12T-75's back in. Rock n' roll
I have 4 x V30s in my 1960A Cab. Don't bother mixing them with G12T75s, because the V30s will still dominate the sound. I did this and convinced myself it sounded great - until I tried a cab with 4 x Vintage 30s! How old are the V30s in your Carvin? V30s do sound harsh at first, but sound great once they're nicely run in?.... But if you just don't like the bright, punchy classic Marshall tone that they give - maybe Greenbacks, Cream backs - infact ANYTHING apart from G12T75s will sound good! Bear in mind though that a cab loaded with some of these other options may not be capable of handling the full power of your amp! In the real world this is rarely a problem, because few can get away with playing that loud!
Lots of great information. Thank you everyone. I really apprecite all of it! I am running my jvm205h and often switch to my 6505+ and my dsl100h. For the most part, Id say the 205h.. The carvin speakers are going on 6 years with band jam time on them and lots of home use. It seems that the consensus is that the Green?Cream backs are the most popular. I will do some research on them more. I remember looking into them some time ago and then I stopped. Thanks guys !!!!!!!
For new speakers I'm partial to EVH/Heritage G12M20s and H30 55HZ. For old speakers, I had a killer early 80s 1960A with 12-65s. Best cab I ever owned. Also had some great G12M Blackbacks in a JMP 2104. Creambacks I'm neutral on. I've had the M and H. I like neither as much as the speakers they are meant to sound like. The 65M is darker than the various GBs, and the 75H is less meaty than the various H30 lead and bass cones. V30s and (modern) T75s always sound good to me on a recording, but in the room they drive me bonkers. For these, the oldest versions you can find are the best sounding. (i.e. actual speakers from the mid to late 1980s)
Having owned 18+ different models of speakers [49 speakers total to date - yes its a disease] my favorites for old Marshalls and classic tones are the Greenback style GB & BB's and Scumback's M75's. For more modern tones the V30's, Creamback M65 and Scumback J75LD work well. Another plug for Scumback - if you have to buy new his are broken in at the factory. A great thing for a mid to low volume player. If I HAD to choose it would be a pair of 1960B's with broken in GB's. Russ
I just bought a new amp with a creamback in it.....omg...what a killer speaker. So my ultimate 4x12 would be creamback 65 watters......I have a magical 4x12 full of greenbacks which is a great cab.....but creamback is a big step up imho.
You will just need to try it and see if it works for you. As they say in baseball that's why they play the games. What works with a particular amp/guitar combination may not work with another set of factors. Right now my 4x12 has G12M greenbacks. It sounds killer with many of my amps, but I don't like it as much with others. I personally like JVMs with V30s, so a mix including V30s might be good by my experience.
Silver jubilee was made for v30s Dsl loves g12t75s Vintage modern loves greenbacks Mesa Mk V loves V30s
