“A million notes in the key of stupid” or the assholian mode which do you prefer ?

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  1. Buzzard

    Buzzard Well-Known Member

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    Name the guitarists that you just can’t listen to for more than 5 seconds. Where it’s almost physically painful .
     
  2. BenjaminW

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    Vinnie Vincent and Chris Impellitteri. Both can play fast but it is so god damn boring to listen to.

    I listened to some excerpt from I think an audio book that Paul did a few years ago on Vinnie Vincent and all I got out of it was that he tried to compete with other shredders to be the fastest guitarist, but it was just awful. I also came across a video of Vinnie shredding over some basic backing track, and it's just as the title implies. A million notes in the key of stupid.

    Impellitteri on the other hand sorta came out of left field for me. I found some video of him playing a shreddy-ish version of Eruption that I thought was cool and decided to check his stuff out. That led me to Stand in Line, which is a pretty cool song with a kickass riff. I also was expecting the solo to be as good as the riff. Like with Vinnie, it was just him pretending to be Yngwie. Needless to say, it fucking sucked.
     
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    I have way to broad a taste in music. I cant really think of a player I hate. Theres a lot of singers that will make me change the station either thru their lack of talent or douchery but I cant think of a guitar player. Hell I like Neil Young and even Neil thinks hes not the greatest lol. I once read an article where he said "cmon, youve heard me". I mean there are players who I really dont dig. Like its really hard for me to listen to post DLR era Steve Vai. He's this brilliant player but I just totally dont connect with him on a musical level. Malmsteen is mostly miss for me.
     
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    Jerry Garcia
    Jerry Garcia
    Santana

    but cant even last one second
     
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    ouch. true
     
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    I was never a Vinnie Vincent fan. Wasn't really sure if he was a guy or girl either but that's another topic :) Admittedly I don't really know Chris Impellitteri so I can't comment on him.

    A while back I saw Alter Bridge at the Chicago House of Blues and Michael Angelo Batio played as well. I first thought it was a joke as it was just all fast playing with no personality/feeling/soul to the music. I hated it. I'm not saying he isn't good at what he does, I just don't care for what he does.

    It's funny now that I'm older I'm less into leads/solos and more into rhythm and melody. I appreciate a solo with patience and emotion (think Knopfler, Gilmour, etc.) vs. just fast playing.
     
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    Matthews Guitars Well-Known Member

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    Henry Kaiser.

    Mic drop.
     
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    Matthews Guitars Well-Known Member

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    Like KraftyBob said, I also appreciate a solo that shows patience and emotion. Knopfler and Gilmour are two guys who are really masters of that. I'd put Billy Gibbons into that category without hesitation. A great soloist loves every note and gives the right ones time to ring out, grow to something bigger and more beautiful, and sustain.

    B.B. King taught us the value of a single note when it's the right note and played like you're trying to screw it to death. A lot of players could stand to learn that lesson.

    It's not about how many notes you play, it's how the right notes can take your breath away.
     
  10. J Saw

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    All of he modes matter. Some figure them out sooner.
     
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    - The Hotel California Eagles guy.
    - Kirk Hammett.
    - Most of the tappers and shredders from the 80's except EVH and YJM.
    - Gary Moore.
    - Santana.
    - Vernon Reid.
     
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    Think Michael Shenker ?
    BP
     
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    Yngwie
    Satriani
    Vai
     
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    Lol I had to look him up. Had no idea he is the Edge.
     
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    Thats an easy question for me...Steve Via, Satriani and Bucket Head...just way tooo much and nothing seems melodic!
     
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    Of those three I like Satriani. His stuff is super listenable for my tastes. Buckethead does do some interesting stuff but he gets old quick. Vai is just OUT THERE, clearly he was heavily influenced by his former boss Frank Zappa.

    But come on, if you like rock and roll driven by an overdriven guitar, how can you NOT like this?

     
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    I often slip into assholian mode -- like thinking this should be in the Backstage instead of guitars...

    Gary Moore. I forced myself to listen to Parisienne Walkways all the way through, hoping to hear whatever it is people rave about. Just sounded like bad Santana.

    Carlos was awesome back when he was in Journey and a few flashes in the late '70s, but PW sounds like a hamhanded rip of Europa. (And Europa bores me to tears.)

    Could only get partway through Moore's Red House. Gain does not equal emotion.
     
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    :slash: I’m right there with ya on Gary Moore, tried to like it several times.
     
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    cant stand bucket head.
     
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    Dime Bag, most horrendous tone ever recorded.
     

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