2 amps together...?

racko7566 · 11-02-2009, 10:09 PM

What's up guys and gals. I was wondering if I can run my dsl with my ep jr. at the same time if I use the stereo outs of a ce-5 chorus pedal? And if so, does it change the ohms in any way? Thanks for any info, Racko

American Viking · 11-02-2009, 10:23 PM

are they both combos? heads? what cab/cabs are you using?

racko7566 · 11-02-2009, 10:48 PM

Hey AV. I'm using a dsl with the mc412, and the epi jr. with the 112 cab. Both are heads. And both are 16 ohms

Wilder Amplification · 11-02-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by racko7566

What's up guys and gals. I was wondering if I can run my dsl with my ep jr. at the same time if I use the stereo outs of a ce-5 chorus pedal? And if so, does it change the ohms in any way? Thanks for any info, Racko

What cab are you running?

American Viking · 11-02-2009, 11:21 PM

if each head is going to it's own cabinet everything is fine. ohms and impedance do not need to change unless the output is differing, not the input (guitar). just make sure the impedance is matched like normal.

Wilder Amplification · 11-02-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by American Viking

if each head is going to it's own cabinet everything is fine. ohms and impedance do not need to change unless the output is differing, not the input (guitar). just make sure the impedance is matched like normal.

If he'll be running through the same speaker cab split stereo the impedance will be different from what it would be with all 4 hooked up mono. If all the speakers are the same impedance, it will be cut in half in stereo mode.

racko7566 · 11-02-2009, 11:34 PM

Also both heads have 4,8,and 16 ohm outs and the mc412 is a mono-stereo cab, can i run both heads to the cab on the same ohm setting? or would the two amps suck the sound out of each other? Auughhh....auughhh...aghh. He said suck each other....aughghh...aughgh....

American Viking · 11-02-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racko7566

Also both heads have 4,8,and 16 ohm outs and the mc412 is a mono-stereo cab, can i run both heads to the cab on the same ohm setting? or would the two amps suck the sound out of each other? Auughhh....auughhh...aghh. He said suck each other....aughghh...aughgh....

when the stereo switch is engaged each pair of speakers within the 4x12 is completely independent and should be thought of as it's own cabinet. the impedance must be matched accordingly. if the cab is 4/16ohms mono then in stereo it is 8ohms per side. each amp set to 8ohms.

racko7566 · 11-02-2009, 11:40 PM

OK, this is what I get so far. Two heads with their own cabs out of a stereo pedal are ok..... but if I RUN BOTH HEADS AT 16 OHMS into my stereo 412..... dope sorry this is where im lost.

racko7566 · 11-02-2009, 11:42 PM

thanks for the info guys. sorry i posted before your nice info AV

nofearfactor · 11-03-2009, 08:35 AM

When you use the 4x12 cab set on stereo and each half of the cab is 8ohms then each of your heads have to be set on either 8 or 16ohm, just not 4 or 2ohms. It would be optimum for them to both be set on 8ohm though. The cab set on stereo is like it is now 2 2x12 cabs but in the same enclosure.

Ken · 11-05-2009, 01:02 PM

At home I run my DSL and Music Man into its own 4x12 cabinet sometimes. I also use my chorus pedal to split the guitar signal. It's cool to run the MM clean and the DSL dirty.

I've often wondered why no one makes a 2 channel amp with totally independent channels that you can run them at the same time? Running clean and heavy duty distorted simultaniously is a rather interesting sound!

Ken

racko7566 · 11-05-2009, 07:46 PM

That is a great idea Ken. Better get a patent...

nofearfactor · 11-05-2009, 11:34 PM

Sounds like a project for Wilder.

11-02-2009, 10:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	2 amps together...? What's up guys and gals. I was wondering if I can run my dsl with my ep jr. at the same time if I use the stereo outs of a ce-5 chorus pedal? And if so, does it change the ohms in any way? Thanks for any info, Racko

11-02-2009, 10:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 1,510	Re: 2 amps together...? are they both combos? heads? what cab/cabs are you using? __________________ -I'd rather be a good liver than have one...

11-02-2009, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	Re: 2 amps together...? Hey AV. I'm using a dsl with the mc412, and the epi jr. with the 112 cab. Both are heads. And both are 16 ohms

11-02-2009, 11:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 1,510	Re: 2 amps together...? if each head is going to it's own cabinet everything is fine. ohms and impedance do not need to change unless the output is differing, not the input (guitar). just make sure the impedance is matched like normal. __________________ -I'd rather be a good liver than have one...

11-02-2009, 11:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	Re: 2 amps together...? Also both heads have 4,8,and 16 ohm outs and the mc412 is a mono-stereo cab, can i run both heads to the cab on the same ohm setting? or would the two amps suck the sound out of each other? Auughhh....auughhh...aghh. He said suck each other....aughghh...aughgh....

11-02-2009, 11:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	Re: 2 amps together...? OK, this is what I get so far. Two heads with their own cabs out of a stereo pedal are ok..... but if I RUN BOTH HEADS AT 16 OHMS into my stereo 412..... dope sorry this is where im lost.

11-02-2009, 11:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	Re: 2 amps together...? thanks for the info guys. sorry i posted before your nice info AV

11-03-2009, 08:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
nofearfactor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hellbillyville Posts: 180	Re: 2 amps together...? When you use the 4x12 cab set on stereo and each half of the cab is 8ohms then each of your heads have to be set on either 8 or 16ohm, just not 4 or 2ohms. It would be optimum for them to both be set on 8ohm though. The cab set on stereo is like it is now 2 2x12 cabs but in the same enclosure. __________________ myspace- http://www.myspace.com/nofearfactor some gear pics- http://community.webshots.com/album/...ecurity=QbSaeN

11-05-2009, 01:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ken Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Posts: 607	Re: 2 amps together...? At home I run my DSL and Music Man into its own 4x12 cabinet sometimes. I also use my chorus pedal to split the guitar signal. It's cool to run the MM clean and the DSL dirty. I've often wondered why no one makes a 2 channel amp with totally independent channels that you can run them at the same time? Running clean and heavy duty distorted simultaniously is a rather interesting sound! Ken

11-05-2009, 07:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
racko7566 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 72	Re: 2 amps together...? That is a great idea Ken. Better get a patent...

11-05-2009, 11:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
nofearfactor Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hellbillyville Posts: 180	Re: 2 amps together...? Sounds like a project for Wilder. __________________ myspace- http://www.myspace.com/nofearfactor some gear pics- http://community.webshots.com/album/...ecurity=QbSaeN

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