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DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
Hi everybody, I've recently bought a DSL100 and have noticed that when I switch channels using the footswitch there is a momentary silence before the sound kicks in. It is admittedly very brief, but when you're playing it's very annoying and for me it really spoils an otherwise very nice amp.
I took it to my usual repair man who didn't know how to fix it (!) but surely it can't be an insurmountable problem- other channel changing amps I've owned have not suffered from this fault. Is this common to the model and is there a solution? Please help- I don't want to have to sell it over a silly problem like this. Cheers Jona |
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
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If you have a good guitar, you might just use the red channel and turn the volume down on the songs you want to switch on. The DSL series is one of the few amps I've played through that you can actually use the guitar controls without it killing the tone. I use a Les Paul Standard as my main guitar and the Ultra channel with the guitar vol backed off a tad really cleans it up. Ken |
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
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Thanks Ken but that's not going to work for me, in the band I'm playing with now there are several places where I need to quickly switch back and forth between channels (myspace.com/beattheredlight if you're interested). Frankly I think Marshall should be ashamed of themselves; it's hardly a cheap amp and yet it has this ridiculous flaw which I've never before encountered with many less expensive amps. ![]() Is there really no way to cure this absurd fault? Anyone??! Jona |
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
Luckily I stay on one channel all the time. The quality of Clean isn't as good on the ultra channel but I play more heavy stuff anyways.
Would be nice to be able to use that fender like clean along with the bad ass OD on the ultra side.
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
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Okay, seriously, I agree that Marshall's engineers really messed this up. If anyone has a cheap mod to fix it, I'm all ears too. Ken |
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
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Honestly I'm surprised I couldn't find another post about this by searching, considering all the DSL100 talk. Maybe most players don't need instant switching, but it drives me nuts.Jona |
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
This seems to be a feature of all the JCM2000 DSLs and TSLs. Its a particular circuit that 'ducks' the sound to avoid a switching click. There must be a mod to speed it up. But as a workaround, staying on one channel and either using a volume pedal or overdrive pedal can do it. I actually prefer an overdriven green channel than the actual OD channels.
John
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
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I have the same problem with my TSL-100, drive me nuts some times. |
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these guys might be interested in looking at this problem or will have an answer: The Marshall TSL122-JCM2000 Repair/Mods Page
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
One thing I've mentioned elswhere: if you buy an aftermarket electronic foot switch (I have a Boss) it really helps. It doesn't eliminate the problem but it does make the switching noticably faster. It was well worth the $30! Every DSL owner should have one.
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
I have this problem with my TSL, I've just gotten used to it over time.
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
My DSL100 does not drop out when switched, I get a load pop instead. It is not an option to switch when playing unless I turn the volume down to zero on my Guitar. I live primarily on the green channel with gain on 10 with boost. I don't miss the switching back and forth, but would like to find out what the problem is.
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Re: DSL100 'Delay' when switching channels
I can second Ken, I threw away the crappy Marshall fs and use a mesa switch I had laying around through a good cable and have no lag in switching. Now we are not generally playing at super fast tempos, but I do a lot of sudden shifts (fast enough that using the volume knob would take too long).
I think the mechanical quality of the actual switch made a big difference. |
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