DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings

bigdawgnate · 11-13-2008, 09:26 PM

I am a huge artificial harmonic player, but i am having trouble getting them as well as normal harmonics to sound out of my head. is it the settings? is it the head? any info will help thanks

RachelMorgan · 11-14-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdawgnate

I am a huge artificial harmonic player, but i am having trouble getting them as well as normal harmonics to sound out of my head. .... any info will help thanks

We'll start with the smart a$$ed response: Turn down your amp. That sound you hear is tinnitus.

Seriously it takes a lot of practice. I can get them playing acoustically. Did you change your guitar lately? Longer or shorter scale? They'll be in different places. Assuming you know how to hold your plectrum for these, just crank up the gain (it's easier at first), and use the D string and practice your technique. Then it gets worse -- go to the G then B then E' string. Then back off the gain and try to get them playing clean -- they'll be very faint.

bigdawgnate · 11-14-2008, 11:34 PM

no no this is not the issue, i play a bunch of ozzy and van halen and i already know the techniques required i have a highoutput guitar etc... i am having trouble getting the harmonics to sound from my head, i can get them to sound killer on my fender frontman 100 watt but its weird on my marshall?

bigdawgnate · 11-14-2008, 11:35 PM

oh and i have messed with the volumeon my amp a bunch also

steelhorse · 11-15-2008, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawgnate

no no this is not the issue, i play a bunch of ozzy and van halen and i already know the techniques required i have a highoutput guitar etc... i am having trouble getting the harmonics to sound from my head, i can get them to sound killer on my fender frontman 100 watt but its weird on my marshall?

What kind of tubes in the amp? Stock or?

bigdawgnate · 11-15-2008, 07:33 AM

tubes are stock, along with everything else

bigdawgnate · 11-15-2008, 07:35 AM

i mean the amp sounds great, it can really growl and the only thing are these harmonic issues

steelhorse · 11-16-2008, 02:41 AM

I don't have a problem with pinch or any kind of harmonics with my Marshall's including the DSL100 which I have also.

What kind of strings and pickups, specifically are you using?

Stock tubes are what's still in my DSL100 at the house and I have JJ's in the club rig and they both scream whenever I want.

You might want to think about a tube change maybe....something's not right.

bigdawgnate · 11-16-2008, 11:02 PM

yea i just played it the other day thru a cab with vintage 30s and it screamed and sounded amazing i dunno i guess its the speakers i am using???? they are celestion mg30s

steelhorse · 11-16-2008, 11:22 PM

Speakers would make a difference for sure but I've not tried MG30's and honestly, I'm not certain what how they would affect harmonics but it's interesting what you noticed for yourself.

bigdawgnate · 11-17-2008, 04:10 PM

yea i think i am goin to take two of the mg30s out and put two vintage thirtys in and then put a toggle so i can toggle from the thirties to the mg30s as well as toggle so both are on

steelhorse · 11-17-2008, 06:40 PM

Sounds cool

RachelMorgan · 11-19-2008, 05:04 PM

Strings.... yikes. Yah, I'm pretty bad about this. I was testing out some new recording gear and was laying down a track with my JVM on OD1 Green using my "JCM 800 2203" setting for some '80s Heavy Metal. I was having a lot of trouble with the pinches. They were still there but were a lot fainter than I was used to hearing. So I tweaked the hell out of the amp made the recording anyway, and it worked. Not as well as i'd like them to but they were there. I had to work harder at it.

Then yesterday (one day later) I picked up the same axe and was running my fingers down the wound strings while I was on the phone. I noticed that where I pick I had worn them smooth. then I realized they were about three months old. DOH! Changed them and it was back to normal. I wish I'd made the recording yesterday. Oh well, I can still re-record the solo.

If you're still having trouble after your speaker change, and have sufficient gain, try a tubescreamer.

11-13-2008, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings I am a huge artificial harmonic player, but i am having trouble getting them as well as normal harmonics to sound out of my head. is it the settings? is it the head? any info will help thanks __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-14-2008, 11:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings no no this is not the issue, i play a bunch of ozzy and van halen and i already know the techniques required i have a highoutput guitar etc... i am having trouble getting the harmonics to sound from my head, i can get them to sound killer on my fender frontman 100 watt but its weird on my marshall? __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-14-2008, 11:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings oh and i have messed with the volumeon my amp a bunch also __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-15-2008, 07:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings tubes are stock, along with everything else __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-15-2008, 07:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings i mean the amp sounds great, it can really growl and the only thing are these harmonic issues __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

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11-16-2008, 02:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,951	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings I don't have a problem with pinch or any kind of harmonics with my Marshall's including the DSL100 which I have also. What kind of strings and pickups, specifically are you using? Stock tubes are what's still in my DSL100 at the house and I have JJ's in the club rig and they both scream whenever I want. You might want to think about a tube change maybe....something's not right. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

11-16-2008, 11:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings yea i just played it the other day thru a cab with vintage 30s and it screamed and sounded amazing i dunno i guess its the speakers i am using???? they are celestion mg30s __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-16-2008, 11:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,951	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings Speakers would make a difference for sure but I've not tried MG30's and honestly, I'm not certain what how they would affect harmonics but it's interesting what you noticed for yourself. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

11-17-2008, 04:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigdawgnate Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings yea i think i am goin to take two of the mg30s out and put two vintage thirtys in and then put a toggle so i can toggle from the thirties to the mg30s as well as toggle so both are on __________________ Spielberg Custom Guitars check out this article on me: http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comm...e-this-guitar/

11-17-2008, 06:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,951	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings Sounds cool __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

11-19-2008, 05:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 221	Re: DSL 100 Articifial Harmonics/ settings Strings.... yikes. Yah, I'm pretty bad about this. I was testing out some new recording gear and was laying down a track with my JVM on OD1 Green using my "JCM 800 2203" setting for some '80s Heavy Metal. I was having a lot of trouble with the pinches. They were still there but were a lot fainter than I was used to hearing. So I tweaked the hell out of the amp made the recording anyway, and it worked. Not as well as i'd like them to but they were there. I had to work harder at it. Then yesterday (one day later) I picked up the same axe and was running my fingers down the wound strings while I was on the phone. I noticed that where I pick I had worn them smooth. then I realized they were about three months old. DOH! Changed them and it was back to normal. I wish I'd made the recording yesterday. Oh well, I can still re-record the solo. If you're still having trouble after your speaker change, and have sufficient gain, try a tubescreamer. __________________

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