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Old 06-13-2008, 10:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

Hey everyone, People have said you can pull out 2 of your tubes from a 100w head to make it a 50w. thing is i want to know is this dangerous to the amp itself or can i do this to get an earlier distortion curve from it without worry. Btw if it was safe i would do this with the master at 6 or 7 maybe higher and the pre amp 8-10 is this dangerous to the amp. ive done it at lower volumes ie 1.5 and no problem dont really want to crank it to find out. Any help well appreciated.
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

No it's not harmful.
Pull the inner pair (2&3) or the outer pair (1&4), doesn't matter which.
Set the impedance on the amp for 1/2 the actual cab impedance.
Crank it.
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Re: Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

Thanks il give it a go
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Old 06-14-2008, 09:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

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No it's not harmful.
Pull the inner pair (2&3) or the outer pair (1&4), doesn't matter which.
Set the impedance on the amp for 1/2 the actual cab impedance.
Crank it.
do you need to rebias if you do this?
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:15 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

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do you need to rebias if you do this?
It's always good practice to at least check it.
I pulled two tubes on my JCM800 and was disappointed with the results.
The volume drop isn't great and you loose some low end drive. I guess the power isn't there anymore to push the low frequencies. The one good side is the earlier break-up.
The next chance I get though I'll be putting them back (and re-biasing).
Your best bet for keeping power tube drive at lower volume is a good attenuator.

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Cheers for the help guys.
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It's always good practice to at least check it.
I pulled two tubes on my JCM800 and was disappointed with the results.
The volume drop isn't great and you loose some low end drive. I guess the power isn't there anymore to push the low frequencies. The one good side is the earlier break-up.
The next chance I get though I'll be putting them back (and re-biasing).
Your best bet for keeping power tube drive at lower volume is a good attenuator.

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Paul.
yeah i agree about the attenuator for sure...and for some reason i prefer the sound of a 100 watt amp over its 50 watt counterpart....
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Pulling tubes: is it harmfull to my amp

I can imagine it would be easy to pull the wrong 2. If the 100w amp uses 4 tubes as 2 push-pull pairs, you would want to make sure you pull a push pull pair, rather than a pair of push tubes or a pair of pull tubes.

Checking the schematic would help.
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