The dsl joey mod thread

[93DMTX]

Originally Posted by Buggs.Crosby

Dont use a super hot iron....the traces on these things wont like the heat

Just kidding brotha...I use a Weller WTCP solder station.

Still good advice, I'd hate for anyone to mess up their DSL...now if it was a 6100...

[93DMTX]

Alright, got the output grounds bridged. All is good.

Thanks again to all you guys that take the time to help others.

[Buggs.Crosby]

Just remember all 3 jacks are now active

[Uncle Beef]

Ok after struggling around for a bit with a blown OT and multiple wasted diodes my dsl 50 is working again. I replaced the OT with a mercury magnetics piece and its working great. Tone difference was VERY noticeable. I then went ahead and did the R12 mod mentioned in the first page to give my crunch channel some more umph and I really like that one as well.

Kind of like Buggs said earlier though i'd like my green channel to be more of a pissed off whiskey drunk irishmen to steal his phrase. What else can i do to that crunch channel to liven it up a bit more?

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by Uncle Beef

Ok after struggling around for a bit with a blown OT and multiple wasted diodes my dsl 50 is working again. I replaced the OT with a mercury magnetics piece and its working great. Tone difference was VERY noticeable. I then went ahead and did the R12 mod mentioned in the first page to give my crunch channel some more umph and I really like that one as well.

Kind of like Buggs said earlier though i'd like my green channel to be more of a pissed off whiskey drunk irishmen to steal his phrase. What else can i do to that crunch channel to liven it up a bit more?

Step on it! That crunch channel was made for boosting. It can get as pissed off as you want it. Mine has been tweaked to have that low end flub gone when turned up without having to shape the EQ(decrease bass)between it and the other channels. I actually lost a bit of gain on it but man does it take pedals like a champ and still rolls off to clean and I don't have to worry about re eq'ing when I switch to Lead 2.

I know you're looking for a circuit tweak. I think a pedal here actually wins out. I base this on my taste and experience though.

[93DMTX]

I'm with solarburn. I bought a TS9DX about 10 yrs ago to use with a Mesa Dual Caliber. Never liked it. Thought many times about just getting rid of it.

The DSL loves it though. The TS9 in front and a 10 Band EQ in the loop gave that little extra ooomph and control that allowed me to dial in exactly what I was after.

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by 93DMTX

I'm with solarburn. I bought a TS9DX about 10 yrs ago to use with a Mesa Dual Caliber. Never liked it. Thought many times about just getting rid of it.

The DSL loves it though. The TS9 in front and a 10 Band EQ in the loop gave that little extra ooomph and control that allowed me to dial in exactly what I was after.

Haha. I've got both too. Right now I'm using the 10 band in front right after the Boosta Grande clean boost and delay in the loop. ****'n tools of the trade man!LOL

DSL's are clean boost/OD pedal friendly period. If you can do mods yourself than that's just another plus at getting what you want out of it.

[Uncle Beef]

Thats what I've been doing since i got it. I have it setup now where I use my greedtone overdrive which i think blows away any tubesreamer ive ever heard. I never use the clean channel but i like the crunch a lot. I have it set at about 3 or so on the gain and 9 on the volume. God I love power tube distortion.

But I am looking to get rid of that low end flub and tighten it up a bit as well. Next mod to be done.

How do you like that 10 band eq? I was looking at some the other day.

[jcmjmp]

Originally Posted by Uncle Beef

But I am looking to get rid of that low end flub and tighten it up a bit as well. Next mod to be done.

The V1a cathode cap should help with that but first...

1) how is the amp biased? I recommend 65%
2) What kind of EL34s? I recommend SED =C=
3) What kind of speakers?
4) What settings on the amp to reproduce this "flub"?

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by Uncle Beef

Thats what I've been doing since i got it. I have it setup now where I use my greedtone overdrive which i think blows away any tubesreamer ive ever heard. I never use the clean channel but i like the crunch a lot. I have it set at about 3 or so on the gain and 9 on the volume. God I love power tube distortion.

But I am looking to get rid of that low end flub and tighten it up a bit as well. Next mod to be done.

How do you like that 10 band eq? I was looking at some the other day.

Wilder got rid of that flub on mine. Whatever the hell he did its gone. Its more plexi like but not a plexi hehe. I keep the gain on it all the way up and it just hits ACDC territory. Early ACDC at that. So when I hit it with a boost or OD it crunches up like crazy and the neck pu on the strat...sultry with a bit of woman heat on it. You know the kind that makes you go slow & deep. **** I need a cig...

I can even run lead 2 close to full out on the gain at volume with the deep switch in. He's made it so the gain doesn't come in too fast and overbearing but remains tight too.

Usually I use EQ pedals as a boost in the loop but I tried it in front end and found it works very good with certain parameters adjusted. So I really like it now since it can go both in the front end and in the loop. It really can help alleviate flub in lows and razor highs and push any mids needed. I'm using the MXR. I think its a great addition to mods to have at your disposal.

[Buggs.Crosby]

My drunken Irishman may not be a mod you want....for one your clean will all but disappear
that is your clean will sound like your crunch does now.....your Valves will also take a small life expectancy hit. they also require a good disassembley of the amp....not sure how far you have gone or have a clues as to your skill level either....the one part of the mod is listed in the thread and is easy to do....it wont get you a pissed off Irishman....but it will give some more gain

[Joey Voltage]

Originally Posted by Buggs.Crosby

.your Valves will also take a small life expectancy hit. they also require o good disassembley of the amp

Nah, that mod wont do shit to valve life expectancy

[Joey Voltage]

Originally Posted by Uncle Beef

Thats what I've been doing since i got it. I have it setup now where I use my greedtone overdrive which i think blows away any tubesreamer ive ever heard. I never use the clean channel but i like the crunch a lot. I have it set at about 3 or so on the gain and 9 on the volume. God I love power tube distortion.

But I am looking to get rid of that low end flub and tighten it up a bit as well. Next mod to be done.

How do you like that 10 band eq? I was looking at some the other day.

the first page has mods to do that. the first step you already did - c12, but easily done with just one extra component swap on either green or red.

[Buggs.Crosby]

Originally Posted by Joey Voltage

Nah, that mod wont do shit to valve life expectancy

is that your way of saying i could push it more?.....LOL

[Joey Voltage]

Originally Posted by Buggs.Crosby

is that your way of saying i could push it more?.....LOL

If you really wanted to, although at some point it might be unusable

[TwinACStacks]

Christ Buggs, why don't you just get an ENGL or one of those Mojave BAD BOYS? Marshalls aren't supposed to have THAT much gain, something Bad might happen, like a rip in the space/time continuum or WORSE.

Come to think of it, that Oil spill in the Gulf started right about the time you finished your Mods.....

TWIN

[longfxukxnhair]

Originally Posted by TwinACStacks

Christ Buggs, why don't you just get an ENGL or one of those Mojave BAD BOYS? Marshalls aren't supposed to have THAT much gain, something Bad might happen, like a rip in the space/time continuum or WORSE.

Come to think of it, that Oil spill in the Gulf started right about the time you finished your Mods.....

TWIN

He is getting that DSHell to the point it can flambe

[Buggs.Crosby]

Originally Posted by TwinACStacks

Christ Buggs, why don't you just get an ENGL or one of those Mojave BAD BOYS? Marshalls aren't supposed to have THAT much gain, something Bad might happen, like a rip in the space/time continuum or WORSE.

Come to think of it, that Oil spill in the Gulf started right about the time you finished your Mods.....

TWIN

Nice try....BP had nothing to do with my amp......now our two J techs are a different story

and LH....My DSHell already Flambe's your 6100.....back to the Darkside with you

[Uncle Beef]

Originally Posted by jcmjmp

The V1a cathode cap should help with that but first...

1) how is the amp biased? I recommend 65%
2) What kind of EL34s? I recommend SED =C=
3) What kind of speakers?
4) What settings on the amp to reproduce this "flub"?

1. Have to bring home my multimeter ill get back to you on the bias.
2. el34 are jj's
3. speakers are 1960 cab so Celestions if im not mistaken
4. as far as setting go my music tends to be on the bassier side and its what I write. however i need it to be a tight bass. current settings are 7 on the treble, 5 on the mids, 8 on the bass. deep switch out, tone shift switch out as well. Ive found for the music I write that its as tight as its going to get but its still too loose for my taste.

[Buggs.Crosby]

Beef a choke will help tighten the low end up

[TwinACStacks]

Beef Did You change out your Grid Blockers to 5K6?

TWIN

[Buggs.Crosby]

Originally Posted by TwinACStacks

Beef Did You change out your Grid Blockers to 5K6?

TWIN

should not be an issue on a 2005 model i thought?
what MM tranny did you get?

[Jack92CH]

Is there a way to get the Deep and Mid-scoop switches adjustable with a pot? I don't use the reverb at all and figured I'd do something cool with two knobs that never get used. Are there specific components that can be wired into a pot? It would be sweet to have a range of mids and extra bass response.

[Wilder Amplification]

Originally Posted by Jack92CH

Is there a way to get the Deep and Mid-scoop switches adjustable with a pot? I don't use the reverb at all and figured I'd do something cool with two knobs that never get used. Are there specific components that can be wired into a pot? It would be sweet to have a range of mids and extra bass response.

The Deep yes. The mid scoop/tone shift no. There's 3 poles worth of switching going on with the tone shift circuit so this would be near impossible.

With the Deep circuit, you remove R43 on the pot board and replace it with a 10K pot.

[Joey Voltage]

Originally Posted by Jack92CH

Is there a way to get the Deep and Mid-scoop switches adjustable with a pot? I don't use the reverb at all and figured I'd do something cool with two knobs that never get used. Are there specific components that can be wired into a pot? It would be sweet to have a range of mids and extra bass response.

Absolutely yes to both!

[jcmjmp]

Originally Posted by Joey Voltage

Absolutely yes to both!

Additionally, if you (Jack92ch) read through the posts (or search) in this thread, you'll find info on how to modify either one. Adding a pot is easy once you know which components need to change. The mid cut is a single component change and the deep can also be altered with a single component.

[Jack92CH]

Is there somebody here who has already done this? I'd just use the two reverb pots to adjust each one if I could hook them up. I like the idea of the deep and mid-scoop switches, I'd just rather be able to adjust the levels of each one instead of having them be either on or off.

[tweed]

Just wanted to take a minute and thank everyone for the help and contributing to this thread. It is Great!!

I changed out R12 on the input board this morning to 100k to see if I would like the change, it sounds pretty good, but the amp is still not doing it for me. So I think its time to move on and try another flavor. Anyone know what the going price for a dsl50 w/choke, footswitch, =C= power tubes, 2 tung's in V1/2, GT V3, and sovtek LPS V4 would be?

Thanks in advance!

[Joey Voltage]

Originally Posted by Jack92CH

Is there somebody here who has already done this? I'd just use the two reverb pots to adjust each one if I could hook them up. I like the idea of the deep and mid-scoop switches, I'd just rather be able to adjust the levels of each one instead of having them be either on or off.

you can use one of the reverb controls for the depth,butyou would need an aftermarket pot fo the other,and there are three easy ways you can go about it, with the "shift" there are also other ways to use unconventional mods to acheive this, but this is beyond this sections intent. you can do pretty much anything you want to, so long as you put your brain to it

[Jack92CH]

Why would I need an aftermarket pot if there's already an extra after the depth pot is hooked up? I'm thinking I'll just make this a separate thread to see if anyone has done the same thing.