Worst effex

Hollowbody · 10-11-2009, 02:40 PM

So, I have been getting bored with the tech aspect of my music world, not the actual making music, but the gizmos involved.

I thought it would be fun to put together a pedalboard using all the shittiest effects pedals known to guitarplayers. I think it would be funny to show up at a gig with a board full of inept items. Then I started thinking about the whole sonic relivance issue concerning tone and quality, you know, "one man's trash could be another man's treasure" (girlfriends excluded from this particular definition).

I also started to think about the possible price of such a pedalboard after all is said and done and I think most of us have allready paid for enough crap in our lives. I guess I'll pass on paying for it even if I could find some deals on ebay, even at 5 or 10 bucks a pedal it could add up to being able to get something cool.

So, hypothetically: If you were to build a pedalboard with the world's worst gear what would it have?

It would be good to hear your opinion and have all the crap in one place. Plus this thread could be useful as a warning to some about really bad gear and maybe differences of opinion could be measured in a different way, instead of what should be to what should not be.

peace.

Hollowbody · 10-11-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollowbody

It would be good to hear your opinion and have all the crap in one place. Plus this thread could be useful as a warning to some about really bad gear and maybe differences of opinion could be measured in a different way, instead of what should be to what should not be.

peace.

You know what your problem is dude? You never have enough interaction with people so you have to start some thread about bad gear.

***Adwex*** · 10-11-2009, 03:16 PM

HA! You're not schizophrenic, and neither are you.

rockinr0ll · 10-11-2009, 04:09 PM

"Roses are red, violets are blue
If I'm schizophrenic, then I am too
Whatever it takes to escape"

Anyway... I used an AVT with ME-50 and got amazingly awful tones!

American Viking · 10-11-2009, 04:19 PM

Oh wow, many pedals come to mind when I think of awfulness...

Zoom 505 one of the WORST EVER

DOD Death Metal Pedal

DOD Grunge

shit, anything by DOD and DIGITECH

all multi-effects pedals and processors

There are tons more of crap effects. Some can get so terrible they're almost good.

Bluemoon78 · 10-11-2009, 06:47 PM

Boss XT-2 xtortion - awful
Dod flashback fuzz - painful
dod stereo phaser - indescribable
Danelectro shift daddy - wtf?
Any kind of chorus.

carnada · 10-11-2009, 07:45 PM

DOD stereo chorus

fucking terrible, this pedal sucked my C note on the A string. It just didnt play it. REALLY tone sucking piece of shit, could never boost a solo when this was on AND off. Terrible pedal when it was on, and even worse when it was off

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-11-2009, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

Oh wow, many pedals come to mind when I think of awfulness...

Zoom 505 one of the WORST EVER

DOD Death Metal Pedal

DOD Grunge

shit, anything by DOD and DIGITECH

all multi-effects pedals and processors

There are tons more of crap effects. Some can get so terrible they're almost good.

for the most part i would agree with you , but a few months ago i modded my
first DOD FX-51 "JUICE BOX" o/d pedal , dude let me tell you ......it was one of the best overdrive boxes i have played thru , i have not modded many o/d
pedals that made a marshall come alive like that , i find most o/d boxes work well for boosting or cranking up the gain etc. but the modded fx-51 sounded better and better as the volume was turned up , it acted alot like a tube amp . i'm looking for another fx-51 for myself !!!

as for multi-f/x boxes , yes they can sound like shit , depends on the unit ...
but i played thru a T.C NOVA SYSTEM ...!! not many pedals, sound this good
but to hear that kinda sound out of a multi box , ya need to go check one out to believe it . times are a change ' n !!!!

rockinr0ll · 10-11-2009, 07:54 PM

DOD YJM308 or DOD 250 are not too bad but I know I can find better.

American Viking · 10-11-2009, 08:43 PM

Does anyone remember those old Snarling Dogs pedals? I'm starting to remember a bunch of stuff that seemed to be around for a minute only to disappear as quickly as it came about.

KickStart · 10-11-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

as for multi-f/x boxes , yes they can sound like shit , depends on the unit ...
but i played thru a T.C NOVA SYSTEM ...!! not many pedals, sound this good
but to hear that kinda sound out of a multi box , ya need to go check one out to believe it . times are a change ' n !!!!

I really like the Nova System... it does sound incredible. And check out the "Tim" and the "Timmy". I am sure most of you have seen these over the years.

Back to shitty pedals... well... Most of them are... haha.. I have a hard time finding anything that doesn't sound like it's coming from a 3" x 4" box... OH.. it is!!! Snarling Dog, that is funny. Snarling Dogs Wahs & Effects

Allterr · 10-11-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

Does anyone remember those old Snarling Dogs pedals? I'm starting to remember a bunch of stuff that seemed to be around for a minute only to disappear as quickly as it came about.

I was actually thinking of picking one of these up.... Bad idea?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Snarling...53-i1124346.gc

shawkey · 10-11-2009, 11:59 PM

hey beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,just don't stuck holdin' your bee when the music stops. btw ,the light up eyes were the best sounding part of those snarlin' dogs

American Viking · 10-12-2009, 01:14 AM

omg they still exist. What was that other stuff, Rogue and the Alluminitor?

I browsed the 'Dogs site just for shits and giggles, they have a Bootsy Collins signature bass wah... now I've seen it all, fellas.

Hollowbody · 10-12-2009, 07:07 AM

My first dist pedal was a purple DOD "American Metal" pedal I got in '85.
At the time I thought it sounded amazing. I sold it and about 10 years later I found another one and tried it but that one sucked ass.

Could it be my tates changed?
Could it be the tolerances in the components were different?
Could it be that I had changed from a LP to a Strat? (I love both BTW)
Would my life be different now if I had chosen the green pedal from a different maker?

Could it be... bla bla bla.

Regardless of the reasons, the tone was good at one time and not at another and the manufactures are still morons for making low grade crap, at any price.

My friend wants me to fix his Blue Snarling Dogs pedal with the red LED eyes. I have never heard it, should I bother?

LesPaulopolis · 10-12-2009, 02:05 PM

Ahh the DOD Grunge...used to run it into a Twin Reverb...actually sounded pretty good for leads!

Did DOD become DigiTech or something?

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-12-2009, 02:07 PM

yeah , same company i think .

***Adwex*** · 10-12-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by American Viking

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all multi-effects pedals and processors

....

Not all processors suck. I have an old Digitech and an ART that suck, but my Lexicon kicks ass...best delay I've ever heard. Now that Digitech owns Lexicon, they probably rank a little higher than they used to.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-12-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adwex

Not all processors suck. I have an old Digitech and an ART that suck, but my Lexicon kicks ass...best delay I've ever heard. Now that Digitech owns Lexicon, they probably rank a little higher than they used to.

i will agree with you on that , Lexicon delays are great no question .

MartyStrat54 · 10-13-2009, 05:54 PM

In 1977, I had been in the Air Force for almost a year and I bought a used, "original" Big Muff Pi off another guitar player. That was just an incredible pedal. It made violin like sustain and had a good distortion as well.

Flash forward to 2004. I bought the most expensive reissue of the Big Muff Pi. I was actually excited to try it out. I got everything set up and I started playing. "Wait a minute...somethings wrong...that sucks." Well, I messed with that pedal, tried three different types of guitars and it just sucked. It did not have the same ringing sustain and distortion. I sold it on EBAY for less than half of what I paid for it. Horrible pedal.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-13-2009, 07:18 PM

and again , another example of "they don't make stuff like they used too " !!!

Hollowbody · 10-14-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

and again , another example of "they don't make stuff like they used too " !!!

+1

Sad but true

carnada · 10-14-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

and again , another example of "they don't make stuff like they used too " !!!

not even the girls come like they used to!! now they come with a full collection of deceases and problems!

MartyStrat54 · 10-14-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

and again , another example of "they don't make stuff like they used too " !!!

...even though they advertise that they do. "Same chip as the original." "Same circuit as in the one Eddie made famous." Yeah they tell us it's the same as 1976, but it's not...it's usually not even close.

Sir Don · 10-15-2009, 01:00 AM

You'd have to include the Boss Metal Zone surely! Try as I did I just couldn't get it to sound even reasonable.

HOT TUBES 70 · 10-15-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Don

You'd have to include the Boss Metal Zone surely! Try as I did I just couldn't get it to sound even reasonable.

yes , in stock trim , a black door stop !!
but modded , they can sound pretty good thru a clean channel of a good tube amp.

gunboatstudio · 10-15-2009, 09:22 AM

+1 to the DOD grunge pedal. Legendary status of suck. It was the first pedal I ever bought. Then I didn't buy another one for like 8 years. I assumed that all pedals were that bad...

Although I used it to process some background vocals once, on a demo recording of a punked-out Johnny Horton cover. That was DOD's problem... marketing to the wrong instrument.

Badmo · 11-09-2009, 02:53 PM

dan electro cool cat metal -_- zoom 1201 fx rack my first and worse fx ever!!!

May aswell of set fire to my dosh

stookiebhoy · 11-10-2009, 05:35 AM

Bespeco volume/wah

The single worst piece of shit I ever bought without doubt. I forgot to take my pedal board to a gig which was 400 miles away and had to think fast, so found the nearest music store (tandy electronics, can never forget the name) and bought this piece of dung. The rest of the band were all for sacking me by the end of the night it was so bad. How can I explain this one? Have you ever heard a wah which sounds like a police siren combined with a goose farting in the fog? Well you're pretty close to the bespeco then.

Badmo · 11-10-2009, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stookiebhoy

Have you ever heard a wah which sounds like a police siren combined with a goose farting in the fog?

Nope but i would sure love too lol

10-11-2009, 02:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hollowbody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tulsa / Northern Texas. Posts: 342	Worst effex So, I have been getting bored with the tech aspect of my music world, not the actual making music, but the gizmos involved. I thought it would be fun to put together a pedalboard using all the shittiest effects pedals known to guitarplayers. I think it would be funny to show up at a gig with a board full of inept items. Then I started thinking about the whole sonic relivance issue concerning tone and quality, you know, "one man's trash could be another man's treasure" (girlfriends excluded from this particular definition). I also started to think about the possible price of such a pedalboard after all is said and done and I think most of us have allready paid for enough crap in our lives. I guess I'll pass on paying for it even if I could find some deals on ebay, even at 5 or 10 bucks a pedal it could add up to being able to get something cool. So, hypothetically: If you were to build a pedalboard with the world's worst gear what would it have? It would be good to hear your opinion and have all the crap in one place. Plus this thread could be useful as a warning to some about really bad gear and maybe differences of opinion could be measured in a different way, instead of what should be to what should not be. peace.

10-11-2009, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Adwex* Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Between a Les Paul and a Marshall Posts: 2,802	Re: Worst effex HA! You're not schizophrenic, and neither are you. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/MarshallLesPaul

10-11-2009, 04:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
rockinr0ll Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,737	Re: Worst effex "Roses are red, violets are blue If I'm schizophrenic, then I am too Whatever it takes to escape" Anyway... I used an AVT with ME-50 and got amazingly awful tones!

10-11-2009, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 2,038	Re: Worst effex Oh wow, many pedals come to mind when I think of awfulness... Zoom 505 one of the WORST EVER DOD Death Metal Pedal DOD Grunge shit, anything by DOD and DIGITECH all multi-effects pedals and processors There are tons more of crap effects. Some can get so terrible they're almost good. __________________ ANY recommended idle current is a guideline and in no way a necessary requirement. There is no skeleton key for any tube amp.

10-11-2009, 06:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bluemoon78 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 102	Re: Worst effex Boss XT-2 xtortion - awful Dod flashback fuzz - painful dod stereo phaser - indescribable Danelectro shift daddy - wtf? Any kind of chorus.

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10-11-2009, 07:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
carnada Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Posts: 1,640	Re: Worst effex DOD stereo chorus fucking terrible, this pedal sucked my C note on the A string. It just didnt play it. REALLY tone sucking piece of shit, could never boost a solo when this was on AND off. Terrible pedal when it was on, and even worse when it was off

10-11-2009, 07:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
rockinr0ll Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,737	Re: Worst effex DOD YJM308 or DOD 250 are not too bad but I know I can find better.

10-11-2009, 08:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 2,038	Re: Worst effex Does anyone remember those old Snarling Dogs pedals? I'm starting to remember a bunch of stuff that seemed to be around for a minute only to disappear as quickly as it came about. __________________ ANY recommended idle current is a guideline and in no way a necessary requirement. There is no skeleton key for any tube amp.

10-11-2009, 11:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
shawkey Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: philly pa Posts: 36	Re: Worst effex hey beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,just don't stuck holdin' your bee when the music stops. btw ,the light up eyes were the best sounding part of those snarlin' dogs

10-12-2009, 01:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
American Viking Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RICHMOND, VIRGINIA Posts: 2,038	Re: Worst effex omg they still exist. What was that other stuff, Rogue and the Alluminitor? I browsed the 'Dogs site just for shits and giggles, they have a Bootsy Collins signature bass wah... now I've seen it all, fellas. __________________ ANY recommended idle current is a guideline and in no way a necessary requirement. There is no skeleton key for any tube amp.

10-12-2009, 07:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Hollowbody Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tulsa / Northern Texas. Posts: 342	Re: Worst effex My first dist pedal was a purple DOD "American Metal" pedal I got in '85. At the time I thought it sounded amazing. I sold it and about 10 years later I found another one and tried it but that one sucked ass. Could it be my tates changed? Could it be the tolerances in the components were different? Could it be that I had changed from a LP to a Strat? (I love both BTW) Would my life be different now if I had chosen the green pedal from a different maker? Could it be... bla bla bla. Regardless of the reasons, the tone was good at one time and not at another and the manufactures are still morons for making low grade crap, at any price. My friend wants me to fix his Blue Snarling Dogs pedal with the red LED eyes. I have never heard it, should I bother?

10-12-2009, 02:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
LesPaulopolis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 708	Re: Worst effex Ahh the DOD Grunge...used to run it into a Twin Reverb...actually sounded pretty good for leads! Did DOD become DigiTech or something? __________________ '68 RI LP Custom '93 Anniversary 6100 (6L6s) '90 JCM900 4100 (EL-34s) Epi. Valve Jr. head (Gain & Bright mod) In Series Loop: ZVEX Mastotron > TU-2 > DD-5 > Boss RC-20XL

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HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 3,373	Re: Worst effex yeah , same company i think . __________________ ************************* PEDAL MODS & CUSTOM PEDAL BOARDS WWW.ONFLOORAUDIO.COM ONFLOORAUDIO@HOTMAIL.COM ************************** Marshall 6100LM ! Marshall 1960 w/ G12H-30`s ! OFA BOSS SD-1 TUBE BOOST PLUS OFA BOSS SD-1 GREEN GIANT OFA BOSS DS-1 HOT BRIT PLUS OFA BOSS BD-2 VINTAGE MOD OFA BOSS MT-2 NOVA MOD OFA BOSS CS-3 COMPRESSOR OFA DUNLOP GCB95 WAH PEDAL BOSS TU-2 TUNER BOSS GT-3 MULTI F/X BOSS FS5U FT SWITCH ERNIE BALL VOLUME PEDAL

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HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 3,373	Re: Worst effex and again , another example of "they don't make stuff like they used too " !!! __________________ ************************* PEDAL MODS & CUSTOM PEDAL BOARDS WWW.ONFLOORAUDIO.COM ONFLOORAUDIO@HOTMAIL.COM ************************** Marshall 6100LM ! Marshall 1960 w/ G12H-30`s ! OFA BOSS SD-1 TUBE BOOST PLUS OFA BOSS SD-1 GREEN GIANT OFA BOSS DS-1 HOT BRIT PLUS OFA BOSS BD-2 VINTAGE MOD OFA BOSS MT-2 NOVA MOD OFA BOSS CS-3 COMPRESSOR OFA DUNLOP GCB95 WAH PEDAL BOSS TU-2 TUNER BOSS GT-3 MULTI F/X BOSS FS5U FT SWITCH ERNIE BALL VOLUME PEDAL

10-15-2009, 01:00 AM	#25 (permalink)
Sir Don Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 248	Re: Worst effex You'd have to include the Boss Metal Zone surely! Try as I did I just couldn't get it to sound even reasonable. __________________ My gear: 2204, 2210, 2555, 9005, 1959, 5005, 4103, 2100, TSL100 www.myspace.com/rockthebosss

10-15-2009, 09:22 AM	#27 (permalink)
gunboatstudio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Western MA Posts: 233	Re: Worst effex +1 to the DOD grunge pedal. Legendary status of suck. It was the first pedal I ever bought. Then I didn't buy another one for like 8 years. I assumed that all pedals were that bad... Although I used it to process some background vocals once, on a demo recording of a punked-out Johnny Horton cover. That was DOD's problem... marketing to the wrong instrument.

11-09-2009, 02:53 PM	#28 (permalink)
Badmo Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Durham, England Posts: 41	Re: Worst effex dan electro cool cat metal -_- zoom 1201 fx rack my first and worse fx ever!!! May aswell of set fire to my dosh __________________ Marshall TSL 601 Ibanez ART300 With Emg 81/85 combo ( how tyipical )

11-10-2009, 05:35 AM	#29 (permalink)
stookiebhoy Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 78	Re: Worst effex Bespeco volume/wah The single worst piece of shit I ever bought without doubt. I forgot to take my pedal board to a gig which was 400 miles away and had to think fast, so found the nearest music store (tandy electronics, can never forget the name) and bought this piece of dung. The rest of the band were all for sacking me by the end of the night it was so bad. How can I explain this one? Have you ever heard a wah which sounds like a police siren combined with a goose farting in the fog? Well you're pretty close to the bespeco then.

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