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Unread 12-14-2013, 09:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: The Official Seymour Duncan JB Thread

Dropped a older JB in an alder strat last year and it's awesome. No lack of bottom end on it. It's a perfect match. The pup is fickle in it's application. I have read many threads where the JB/Mahogany combo is not that good. A JB in a mahogany/maple capped guitar yields much better results. I am hard pressed to think of a more subjective subject than tone. 1 guy loves it and hands his guitar to his buddy and he thinks it sucks ass. Mag swapping is a very cost effective approach to getting the most out of any pup that doesn't quite meet your needs.
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Unread 12-14-2013, 10:26 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: The Official Seymour Duncan JB Thread

Well Since I have two Soltero's I just put a JB Bridge in One
and Im going to try a Dirty fingers in the other. I like the JB mids
and lead but I agree with dogs It lacks bottom.
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I am hard pressed to think of a more subjective subject than tone.
True, except when the mfgr's spec's state that the pickup has a treble heavy tone. Do you think they are wrong? Or their spec's are subjective?
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All you guys talking about no bottom in the JB or CC...try an A8 in it.

Also in case you don't know. The original Custom, Custom Custom, Custom 5 and the unofficial Custom 8 are all the same pickup, just different magnets.
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I was very interested in the Dimarzio 36th anniversary pickup, how does the JB compare?
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The JB is one of my all time favorite pickups.

I recorded this tune with a JB in the bridge of my Jem.


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yep , the JB is probably one of the most well rounded humbucking pick ups ever made !!
Works so well in many guitars imo ~!
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Lacks bottom end?
you're messa has heaps of bottom end?
WHAT!?

the front of the messa is DC. that kills all signal to tiny levels. that's why the JMP blasts it out of the water with shear volume!
that means you are NOT supposed to be using a JB in that amp at all!

there is NO bottom end because you lost it back at the start of the long signal lead!
If there is NO big bass tone you have the RIGHT SOUND!
Doesn't matter what amp or guitar, if you have the guitar amplified correctly there is no sound other than 'trebles'. (the sound of metal strings!) that's all you are playing!

You might find the George Lynch Pickup is MADE FOR DC signal.
Don't be a FOOL and put it straight into the amp with a AC cable!

As they say the A5 magnet has changed the sound from the A2 so it's not the perfect HB pickup.
I would say it's increased the output of the signal an that means the sound has gone up in freq and so stuffed the tone!
try the Fender SUPERSONIC guitar's humbuckers!
they are in perfect tone of the guitar's accoustic tone.
SO that pickup is the perfect HB side by side design.
They were made for 1 year and the idea was to replicate Hendrix's tone. ;-) know what I'm saying?
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Lacks bottom end?
you're messa has heaps of bottom end?
WHAT!?

the front of the messa is DC. that kills all signal to tiny levels. that's why the JMP blasts it out of the water with shear volume!
that means you are NOT supposed to be using a JB in that amp at all!

there is NO bottom end because you lost it back at the start of the long signal lead!
If there is NO big bass tone you have the RIGHT SOUND!
Doesn't matter what amp or guitar, if you have the guitar amplified correctly there is no sound other than 'trebles'. (the sound of metal strings!) that's all you are playing!

You might find the George Lynch Pickup is MADE FOR DC signal.
Don't be a FOOL and put it straight into the amp with a AC cable!

As they say the A5 magnet has changed the sound from the A2 so it's not the perfect HB pickup.
I would say it's increased the output of the signal an that means the sound has gone up in freq and so stuffed the tone!
try the Fender SUPERSONIC guitar's humbuckers!
they are in perfect tone of the guitar's accoustic tone.
SO that pickup is the perfect HB side by side design.
They were made for 1 year and the idea was to replicate Hendrix's tone. ;-) know what I'm saying?
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As an aside, I found the Custom Custom thin, bright, and with no bottom end. But I should add this was in a cheap Steinberger Spirit thang, with hardly any wood. Everything I have tried has sounded much the same so far, except the strat pickup in the middle.Or the Alnico II in the neck.
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Lacks bottom end?
you're messa has heaps of bottom end?
WHAT!?

the front of the messa is DC. that kills all signal to tiny levels. that's why the JMP blasts it out of the water with shear volume!
that means you are NOT supposed to be using a JB in that amp at all!

there is NO bottom end because you lost it back at the start of the long signal lead!
If there is NO big bass tone you have the RIGHT SOUND!
Doesn't matter what amp or guitar, if you have the guitar amplified correctly there is no sound other than 'trebles'. (the sound of metal strings!) that's all you are playing!

You might find the George Lynch Pickup is MADE FOR DC signal.
Don't be a FOOL and put it straight into the amp with a AC cable!

As they say the A5 magnet has changed the sound from the A2 so it's not the perfect HB pickup.
I would say it's increased the output of the signal an that means the sound has gone up in freq and so stuffed the tone!
try the Fender SUPERSONIC guitar's humbuckers!
they are in perfect tone of the guitar's accoustic tone.
SO that pickup is the perfect HB side by side design.
They were made for 1 year and the idea was to replicate Hendrix's tone. ;-) know what I'm saying?
dreyn77-I wish you would stop commenting with erroneous information. Keep in mind that others are reading your comments.

All guitar signals are AC. The strings moving over the pickup cause an AC signal.

Again, please stop posting erroneous info or I will be forced to start deleting your comments.
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you're messa has heaps of bottom end?
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Are you talking to me ? I never said the JB lacks bottom end. I said my Mesas have plenty of bottom end so i wouldn't even notice.
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Custom Custom for me, although a JB with an A2 mag swap and a 250k volume pot is pretty awesome as well..
Had a JB in my Jackson strat, it was way to bright because of the Alder wood body. Changed to a Custom Custom and it sounds perfect now great balance of highs and mids.

Interested to know if anyone has a set of Pearly Gates in their Les Paul and how does it sound? In the Youtube vids I have seen they sounded great.
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dreyn77-I wish you would stop commenting with erroneous information. Keep in mind that others are reading your comments.

All guitar signals are AC. The strings moving over the pickup cause an AC signal.

Again, please stop posting erroneous info or I will be forced to start deleting your comments.

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Had a JB in my Jackson strat, it was way to bright because of the Alder wood body. Changed to a Custom Custom and it sounds perfect now great balance of highs and mids.
That makes perfect sense. Folklore has it that when EVH put the Floyd in the Frankie, the already bright guitar became overly bright. SD came up with the Custom Custom to tame this.
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Re: The Official Seymour Duncan JB Thread

Although, interestingly, the SD spec's list the tone:

JB (SH-4)
5 / 6 / 8 bass/mid/treble

Custom Custom (SH-11)
3 / 7 / 7

less bass, more mid & milder treble.

I guess if you think parametric, they don't list the freq point of measure for bass/mid/treble. Maybe the mid is lower mid?

The Duncan Custom (SH-5)
7 / 6 / 9

Custom 5 (SH-14)
6 / 3 / 8

Now, if you have one of those, you'd have more bass, but a scoop & higher treble.
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Although, interestingly, the SD spec's list the tone:

JB (SH-4)
5 / 6 / 8 bass/mid/treble

Custom Custom (SH-11)
3 / 7 / 7

less bass, more mid & milder treble.

I guess if you think parametric, they don't list the freq point of measure for bass/mid/treble. Maybe the mid is lower mid?

The Duncan Custom (SH-5)
7 / 6 / 9

Custom 5 (SH-14)
6 / 3 / 8

Now, if you have one of those, you'd have more bass, but a scoop & higher treble.
I know, sometimes the manufacturers specs don't jive with their descriptions either. Either that or I interpret the info incorrectly. I would assume the CC to be very bright, but the SD description says this:

"High output humbucker for use in bright guitars. Great for pop, country, blues, classic rock and heavy rock. The Custom Custom TM is our SH-5 Duncan CustomTM humbucker with an Alnico II magnet for warm and smooth highs, more midrange, and a spongier bottom end than the SH-5. It's a good choice for players who need a traditional vintage tone with increased output. Comes with four-conductor hookup cable."
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I had a JB in my LP std for a while and in the end I gave up. I can't even put my finger on why it didn't work but I tried so hard to like it. Years later I had a JB in my Ash Super Tele and it absolutely rocks! Just goes to show that not all pick ups will work for all people in all guitars!
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I was very interested in the Dimarzio 36th anniversary pickup, how does the JB compare?
I own both. The JB is high output and does have substantial top end that can help it cut through (I'm not saying that's a bad thing). The 36th Anniv PAF is much closer to a vintage pickup and has some nice mid honk (not as bright on the top end as JB). I tend to like more vintage output so I prefer the 36th Anniv PAF (the Alnico Pro II is probably my favorite Duncan full size humbucker). Still the JB is a great pickup and for higher gain stuff the JB may be a better choice.
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I had a JB in my LP std for a while and in the end I gave up. I can't even put my finger on why it didn't work but I tried so hard to like it. Years later I had a JB in my Ash Super Tele and it absolutely rocks! Just goes to show that not all pick ups will work for all people in all guitars!
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I rolled several pups in my les Paul until the first chord with a SD Custom Custom !!!
That's it , i found the pickup that works in that guitar !
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Although, interestingly, the SD spec's list the tone:

Custom Custom (SH-11)
3 / 7 / 7

less bass, more mid & milder treble.
For my guitar this is exactly what I experienced when I first plugged in. Less bass, but not so much you can't ajust it with the amp. It really smoothed out the ice picky high notes and really beefed up the mids. Before I had all the treble and presence dialed down and the bass and mids way up. It still sounded like crap. After switching to the CC I could dial the amp in normally. In my case the CC did exactly what SD said it would. I think any pup you choose it purely subjective, however I believe that the guitar wood has the most to do with it.
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I had a JB in my LP std for a while and in the end I gave up. I can't even put my finger on why it didn't work but I tried so hard to like it. Years later I had a JB in my Ash Super Tele and it absolutely rocks! Just goes to show that not all pick ups will work for all people in all guitars!
I had an JB in an old Ibanez with mahogany body with maple top and that was like the perfect PU for that guitar. I've put a JB in my SG Standard there's to much treble going on... Still searching for the right one in my SG
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I had an JB in an old Ibanez with mahogany body with maple top and that was like the perfect PU for that guitar. I've put a JB in my SG Standard there's to much treble going on... Still searching for the right one in my SG
Try the Custom Custom !!!
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I know, sometimes the manufacturers specs don't jive with their descriptions either. Either that or I interpret the info incorrectly. I would assume the CC to be very bright, but the SD description says this:

"High output humbucker for use in bright guitars. Great for pop, country, blues, classic rock and heavy rock. The Custom Custom TM is our SH-5 Duncan CustomTM humbucker with an Alnico II magnet for warm and smooth highs, more midrange, and a spongier bottom end than the SH-5. It's a good choice for players who need a traditional vintage tone with increased output. Comes with four-conductor hookup cable."
That spongier bottom end can be tightened up just by whacking the screw posts off at the base plate on the E, A & D. I staggered mine so they taper up in length from the low E even with the base plate, the A a little longer and the D a little longer and then the G normal length. It tightened it up nicely...




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Ha! Cool! I certainly would have never thought of that. Thanks for the tip.
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[QUOTE=DirtySteve;1010744]That spongier bottom end can be tightened up just by whacking the screw posts off at the base plate on the E, A & D. I staggered mine so they taper up in length from the low E even with the base plate, the A a little longer and the D a little longer and then the G normal length. It tightened it up nicely...







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I definitely wouldn't change the JB from my San Dimas Charvel. I bought that guitar with the idea of being able to ape Warren Di Martini circa 1985 more accurately. The very first time I plugged in I started running through my favorites riffs and leads from Invasion......and it nailed it. My Duncan Distortion equipped guitars never quite capture it the same way, or my others. The SD is my Warren guitar.
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The JB sounded thin in my Charvel.The MHD ghost fixed that very nicely.The JB sound thin in the Hamer,and my green strat as well.Just me,but now the JB is not my friend.I tend to like 498t's,and really love the 500 as well.
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why are super hot pickups so popular these days?
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