Dedicated overdrive/clean boost your Marshall thread.

[D.Dailey]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

Too funny!

Great pic man. That's R&R!

In 72-73 I was 7 and 8 depending on which yr. I wished I would have started then...

My lil' Night Train is a great blues amp me thinks. Its 15 watts too and plugged into the 412 its pretty loud. Surprised the shit out of me actually. I always boost it(mildly). Its a toy compared to the Marshall though hehe.

Aint it funny , how time passes by??



Me and my kid, hes a Navy Seabee, a couple of months ago.
Stationed down in Gulfport Mississippi for the moment..
Was home on leave at a benifit for a friend who passed..
I won him a decent Guitar to take back with him..
Hence the big smiles.

He has played Bass sence he was 17...
Kinda miss him comeing home and showing me he learned to play Sabbath's NIB,, and he just had to show me at 2 A.M.
Guess I tought him something of worth..

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by D.Dailey

Aint it funny , how time passes by??



Me and my kid, hes a Navy Seabee, a couple of months ago.
Stationed down in Gulfport Mississippi for the moment..
Was home on leave at a benifit for a friend who passed..
I won him a decent Guitar to take back with him..
Hence the big smiles.

He has played Bass sence he was 17...
Kinda miss him comeing home and showing me he learned to play Sabbath's NIB,, and he just had to show me at 2 A.M.
Guess I tought him something of worth..

If that ain't the coolest thing I don't have a clue. Brings a tear to the eye.

My stepson just got out of the Navy. Hospital corpsman. He's going to school and work'n right now. Good kid. he's 25 now. Been with him since he was about 2yrs old on. He's got me go'n to the gym so I can feel young like him...yeah right. Sore all the time more like hehe. I've got 2 daughters 12 and almost 11 now. Trying to get them to play but they can't get past the "it hurts my fingers" stage. On electric too...My acoustic would kill em' hehe.

Life is good but it definitely changes us...on the outside is where its noticeable right away ha ha. Great to see you still play'n man. Really!

[D.Dailey]

Just Cuz...
The kid got the Bass intro down to a Tee...
But these guys still manage to do it better.. :O

YouTube - Black Sabbath - NIB

YouTube - Black Sabbath - NIB

I got to see The Reunion Tour here in Grand Rapids, Michigan..
They were tighter then , then when I got to see them in 1972..
I do beleive though a few pedals are used..

[solarburnDSL50]

Oh yeah. That's the boyz there. And all of them were so good. Bills drumm'n, Geezer's bass'n, Tony's moaning licks/riffage with those crippled fingers and then the Ozzman with his haunting voice. They all just had a signature sound that culminated into that music I loved as soon as I heard it. I really dig the early stuff. I didn't get to see them till the early 80's. Tony is why I love the SG and have had a couple. Angus is another hehe.

Well we better get back on topic with the pedals here before I get "Chastised" by my bruthers from wandering so far off the beat'n path hehe. I'll drop ya a note on your home page there and shoot the shit with you on it.

[D.Dailey]

A couple of pedals I been looking at..
I have a couple of Boss Delays..
RV-3 & DD-5.
They been pretty faithfull..
Been wondering about the Boss Giga Delay DD-20 ???
BOSS U.S. - DD-20: Giga Delay
And when checking out that one,, I did come across this...
BOSS U.S. - OD-20: Drive Zone
Often a reason I stay away from Digital Effects, is because of the Munchkin Effect..
Therefore,, most my pedals and stuff today is analog...
But it never hurts to play around..
Enjoy...

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by D.Dailey

A couple of pedals I been looking at..
I have a couple of Boss Delays..
RV-3 & DD-5.
They been pretty faithfull..
Been wondering about the Boss Giga Delay DD-20 ???
BOSS U.S. - DD-20: Giga Delay
And when checking out that one,, I did come across this...
BOSS U.S. - OD-20: Drive Zone
Often a reason I stay away from Digital Effects, is because of the Munchkin Effect..
Therefore,, most my pedals and stuff today is analog...
But it never hurts to play around..
Enjoy...

I've never played the DD-20 myself but have read good reviews from guys who have.

I'm real picky about my OD's and Boss's haven't turned me on yet in this category. I'm always game to hear the offerings though... hence the thread.

Are you using any OD or boost at all or just time effect pedals? How about wah?

[HOT TUBES 70]

yes , but have you played a modified version of a SD-1 , OD-1 , OD-3 !!

[D.Dailey]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

I've never played the DD-20 myself but have read good reviews from guys who have.

I'm real picky about my OD's and Boss's haven't turned me on yet in this category. I'm always game to hear the offerings though... hence the thread.

Are you using any OD or boost at all or just time effect pedals? How about wah?

I'm not too sure about overdrives in the DSL I am running pretty much it by itself.
I only have a BD-2 , FDR-1 , MT-2 , OD-3 for Boss pedals..
Mesa V-Twin Preamp and Drive..
70's Fuzzy Face.
70's Electro Harminox Big Muff.
The Problem I run into with Most distortion pedals in my DSL is that they tend to color the origional sound of the amp, more than I really care for.
I am mostly into Classic to Blues Rock tones, even into strait up Blues.
The odd thing,, and not to distract from this thread, when running strait into the two Fenders I run, (Blues Jr-Blues DeVille) the Boss pedals do add a color that is nice..
Or does compliment there sounds..

For Wha..
And old Cry Baby, I have one from the early 70's, but the rack and pinion is worn out..
One from the 90's, that I do use when just running a stand alone CS-3 to whatever distortion overdrive I choose.
On my pedalboard, I tend to use a Morely Volume Distortion Wha.
It gives me some nice options as to my sound and textures..
Over the years, I have reverted to the KISS Logic, as to my effects.
Where less is better..
But I am allways open to options..

When watching the Video on the DD-20 page,, they dont show or explain the amp they are playing threw...
I had to ask myself, if it made a little combo sound like a Marshall Stack, Could it make my Marshall Halfstack, sound like a Little Combo?

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

yes , but have you played a modified version of a SD-1 , OD-1 , OD-3 !!

I have not but hear so many good things about a modded SD-1 that I "would" with it hehe.

[HOT TUBES 70]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

I have not but hear so many good things about a modded SD-1 that I "would" with it hehe.

could you reword that , i don't understand your comment !!!

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

could you reword that , i don't understand your comment !!!

I'd like to try the SD-1 out with my Marshall hehe.

I almost got a Keeley modded SD-1 long time ago but got the DS-1 instead. Had it for awhile then traded it for an H20 to a guy who went to school with Robert. After awhile I hated the DS-1. So it was easy to pass it on. Now after a few years I know more what I want from a pedal and amp mix. My over gained days are behind me...mostly!

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by D.Dailey

I'm not too sure about overdrives in the DSL I am running pretty much it by itself.
I only have a BD-2 , FDR-1 , MT-2 , OD-3 for Boss pedals..
Mesa V-Twin Preamp and Drive..
70's Fuzzy Face.
70's Electro Harminox Big Muff.
The Problem I run into with Most distortion pedals in my DSL is that they tend to color the origional sound of the amp, more than I really care for.
I am mostly into Classic to Blues Rock tones, even into strait up Blues.
The odd thing,, and not to distract from this thread, when running strait into the two Fenders I run, (Blues Jr-Blues DeVille) the Boss pedals do add a color that is nice..
Or does compliment there sounds..

For Wha..
And old Cry Baby, I have one from the early 70's, but the rack and pinion is worn out..
One from the 90's, that I do use when just running a stand alone CS-3 to whatever distortion overdrive I choose.
On my pedalboard, I tend to use a Morely Volume Distortion Wha.
It gives me some nice options as to my sound and textures..
Over the years, I have reverted to the KISS Logic, as to my effects.
Where less is better..
But I am allways open to options..

When watching the Video on the DD-20 page,, they dont show or explain the amp they are playing threw...
I had to ask myself, if it made a little combo sound like a Marshall Stack, Could it make my Marshall Halfstack, sound like a Little Combo?

Exactly.

I'm playing the same stuff and find there are some good OD's that work well mixed with the amp. Distortion pedals I don't even use anymore. Over Drive pedals or clean boosts are quite enough with the DSL.

I'm actually going to be getting another delay pedal soon so keep me posted on any good ones you find...

I've run out of time again and have to get to work. Talk to you guys tomorrow then!

[HOT TUBES 70]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

I'd like to try the SD-1 out with my Marshall hehe.

I almost got a Keeley modded SD-1 long time ago but got the DS-1 instead. Had it for awhile then traded it for an H20 to a guy who went to school with Robert. After awhile I hated the DS-1. So it was easy to pass it on. Now after a few years I know more what I want from a pedal and amp mix. My over gained days are behind me...mostly!

yes , if you gave me a pick of those 2 pedals stock , to run infront of your
dsl , the choice for me would have been the SD-1 , the DS-1 even modded
does not work so well infront of that amp . the DS-1 works much better run
into a clean channel of a good tube amp IMO !

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

yes , if you gave me a pick of those 2 pedals stock , to run infront of your
dsl , the choice for me would have been the SD-1 , the DS-1 even modded
does not work so well infront of that amp . the DS-1 works much better run
into a clean channel of a good tube amp IMO !

Yep. I'd agree the DS-1 had to be its own source of gain. Just didn't jive with any other IME. The sweet spot changed for me with that pedal though and I never found it again...

I bet one of these days I'll be trying an SD-1. I just have it on the back burner is all hehe.

I should have gotten a Barber DD instead of the OCD like I was going to do. Oh well I have found a couple usable tones out of the OCD. Just doesn't excite me like my Dano CTO-1.

[LesBalls]

I have tried tons of different boosts, but the one I keep going back to is the Pedalworx Tejas which is a TS808 clone. I haven't found anything yet that beats it. The thing I like most is that it's very clear and it even has a special "spice" knob for dialing in more clarity.

You never see them used so it's something you may have to throw down the cash for, but I definitely think it's worth it. And on top of that, the customer service is outrageously over the top awesome.

Pedalworx

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by LesBalls

I have tried tons of different boosts, but the one I keep going back to is the Pedalworx Tejas which is a TS808 clone. I haven't found anything yet that beats it. The thing I like most is that it's very clear and it even has a special "spice" knob for dialing in more clarity.

You never see them used so it's something you may have to throw down the cash for, but I definitely think it's worth it. And on top of that, the customer service is outrageously over the top awesome.

Pedalworx

What amp are you using it with? Are you using it for blues, rock or hardrock and how does it react with an amp that is straight clean, into mild break up already or at midgain? Does it have a strong midhump? How does it react to guitar roll off? I love a dynamic pedal...

I'll check it out...

$180 ain't that bad as far as good pedals go. Did you see that $525 pedal I posted earlier? Sheesh!

Any clips?

[LesBalls]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

What amp are you using it with? Are you using it for blues, rock or hardrock and how does it react with an amp that is straight clean, into mild break up already or at midgain? Does it have a strong midhump? How does it react to guitar roll off? I love a dynamic pedal...

I'll check it out...

$180 ain't that bad as far as good pedals go. Did you see that $525 pedal I posted earlier? Sheesh!

Any clips?

Sorry no clips.

I am using it/have used it with a variety of Marshall or Marshall clone amps. I play mostly hard rock 80's stuff, Van Halen, etc.

I set my amp for a nice breakup and then take it over the top with the Tejas. It does have a mid hump...like most vintage TS808s, but I like that. Some don't.

Works very well when you roll the volume back, but may not be as dynamic as say an OCD.

Hope that answers your questions

Have you tried an OCD? That seems like the ticket for you after reading what you like/dislike.

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by LesBalls

Sorry no clips.

I am using it/have used it with a variety of Marshall or Marshall clone amps. I play mostly hard rock 80's stuff, Van Halen, etc.

I set my amp for a nice breakup and then take it over the top with the Tejas. It does have a mid hump...like most vintage TS808s, but I like that. Some don't.

Works very well when you roll the volume back, but may not be as dynamic as say an OCD.

Hope that answers your questions

Have you tried an OCD? That seems like the ticket for you after reading what you like/dislike.

Thanks LesBalls. That pretty much answers my questions. I actually just got an OCD. I thought it's be the ticket for me too but it isn't. I prefer my Dano Transparent Overdrive to it. The OCD does have great roll off though. I'm still messing with it. Its not a bad pedal but I'm a bit underwhelmed with it. I think it may be taking away a bit more of the amps character I like while injecting too much of it's own. So I'm kinda at odds with it right now.

I don't mind a midhump if overall the pedal mixes well.

[HOT TUBES 70]

Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

Yep. I'd agree the DS-1 had to be its own source of gain. Just didn't jive with any other IME. The sweet spot changed for me with that pedal though and I never found it again...

I bet one of these days I'll be trying an SD-1. I just have it on the back burner is all hehe.

I should have gotten a Barber DD instead of the OCD like I was going to do. Oh well I have found a couple usable tones out of the OCD. Just doesn't excite me like my Dano CTO-1.

you are not the first person to say the OCD did not really blow them away , i
did a mini pedal shoot out with a few of the commmon boutique units , and
i have to say it was alright but not incredible , like some would rave . IMO ......its a little overrated .

the DANO on the other hand gets great reveiws from everyone strait across the board . for the money its hard to beat !

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by HOT TUBES 70

you are not the first person to say the OCD did not really blow them away , i
did a mini pedal shoot out with a few of the commmon boutique units , and
i have to say it was alright but not incredible , like some would rave . IMO ......its a little overrated .

the DANO on the other hand gets great reveiws from everyone strait across the board . for the money its hard to beat !

Yeah the Dano really turned out to be a gem. Highly recommend at any price but at $40 its a no brainer for those of us that like pedals with our Marshall's. Because of its openness and transparency it will light up and already gained amp without killing the original tone IME. For me it puts another gear on the red channel yet cleans up nicely with guitar volume. Gives the red channel lead 1 girth which it needs IMO.

I just really like to hit the crunch channel with these kinds of pedals on the DSL. That channel really has a nice foundation tone for running them. I knew I would get lowdowns here on pedals I've never heard of.

Much thanks for sharing your pedals guyz! I am checking them out.

[solarburnDSL50]

Check this one out guyz. I just heard of this one and know nothing about it. It is expensive though at $350. Just posting this to show it not to pimp it.

YouTube - Rockbox Boiling Point Overdrive Boost

YouTube - Rockbox Boiling Point Overdrive Boost

[HOT TUBES 70]

WOW !!! another box that blows my mind in the price dept. I should not be so quick
to jump on it's back , the demo did sound good !, but again at 350$ its alot for a box that sits on the floor IMO !.

Good find solarburn , i had not heard of this one also . i even checked my list of " BOUTIQUE " stuff , but no dice !!!!

[solarburnDSL50]

Yeah I heard some good things in there but that price is way more than I've ever forked out for a pedal. I want to hear more clips of it though...

[van]

Question for you guys.


How do you guys boost your crunch/gain channel with OD in front?Do you set the amp's gain to desired setting(crunch/break up point) then boost it whenever needed or do you guys leave the pedal on all the time and let the guitar volume knob do the rest? Im quite confused how you guys usually do it. The reason i asked this is because i can get my desired tone on my DSL 401 without boost. Do the head/cab version reacts differently vs. the combo gain and volume wise?

Maybe im just doing it wrong.


Thanks in advance! Really cool thread by the way.

[solarburnDSL50]

Originally Posted by van

Question for you guys.


How do you guys boost your crunch/gain channel with OD in front?Do you set the amp's gain to desired setting(crunch/break up point) then boost it whenever needed or do you guys leave the pedal on all the time and let the guitar volume knob do the rest? Im quite confused how you guys usually do it. The reason i asked this is because i can get my desired tone on my DSL 401 without boost. Do the head/cab version reacts differently vs. the combo gain and volume wise?

Maybe im just doing it wrong.


Thanks in advance! Really cool thread by the way.

First off do it how it sounds best to you.

Yes. I set my crunch for some break up and then turn the pedal on with it set where I like it and leave it that way. I play with the pedals on and use guitar volume for cleans. Sometimes I just play with the crunch channel with the pedal off. Depends on what tone I want. No hard rule there.

Once I start a song I will usually stay with that particular gain voice for the entire song and then work guitar volume for cleans or just dynamics or kick it off for more clean. I don't want to do too much foot stomp'n during a song. I like to keep it simple. Sometimes I'll run one into another as long as it doesn't turn into a mess.

Generally I have 3 OD pedals I like to use on the crunch channel. I'll use them when I need to. Right now I'm dig'n lead 2(no boost)with gain about 3 on the knob for midgain stuff. So totally I have 4 different gain voicings I mess with but all are Marshally.

Forgot to mention I use Time based pedals in the loop but this thread focuses on the OD or boost pedals so I left that out.

[van]

thanks a lot man!