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Unread 12-29-2012, 02:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Distortion pedal??

Being an OTC (Obsessive Tone Chaser) for over 30 years not too many overdrive pedals impress me. I currently use a Marshall Gov'nr+. Any other OTC people out there know of a better OD pedals?
So the key here is "tone" as in endless crunchy sustain without tonal mutation like 99% of the pedals do. Tube screamers are close but don't have enough umph. So may boutique pedals out there but too expensive to try. Best tone I can think of to replicate is Billy Gibbons, Charlie Sexton, Joe Bonamassa, ect...

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Unread 12-29-2012, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Distortion pedal??

So.. Are you looking for an Overdrive pedal or a Distortion pedal?
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Unread 12-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Didn't know there was an a differance. Any natural frequency overdriven is clipping or distorting but if you'd like to seperate the two, I would say overdrive.
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I am currently using a TC Electronic Dark Matter distortion pedal, and use a pair of TS9s converted to 808s. They work for me - for the time being...
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Being an OTC (Obsessive Tone Chaser) for over 30 years not too many overdrive pedals impress me. I currently use a Marshall Gov'nr+. Any other OTC people out there know of a better OD pedals?
So the key here is "tone" as in endless crunchy sustain without tonal mutation like 99% of the pedals do. Tube screamers are close but don't have enough umph. So may boutique pedals out there but too expensive to try. Best tone I can think of to replicate is Billy Gibbons, Charlie Sexton, Joe Bonamassa, ect...

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Didn't know there was an a differance. Any natural frequency overdriven is clipping or distorting but if you'd like to seperate the two, I would say overdrive.
Yes, the difference is:

distortion has internal clipping (solid state)
overdrive, boosts the signal into the tube pre-amp

do you want the distortion created on a solid state transistor before it hits the amp, or do you want the distortion to begin at the tube stage?
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Re: Distortion pedal??

I have a Tone Bone Classic tube OD, a Boss DS1, and Cheep JOYO Classic OD (TS9 copy) that was only $40 new on ebay and I like all 3..
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^^^ string vibration magnification theory...
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A sincere thanks to the "useful" responses!
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Re: Distortion pedal??

Well here's my .02. I've had just about every OD/Distortion pedal you can think of. Sounding like someone else to me would be the worst possible thing I can think of.

The two pedals I use cover anything I need as far as drive goes are the Bogner Ecstacy Blue, and Fulltone Plimsoul. Both have a ton of tonal options, and will let you're playing come through.
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OD Pedal - SD1 / TS9

Distortion Pedal - Wampler Pinnacle (billy gibbons trapped in a box)

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Being an OTC (Obsessive Tone Chaser) for over 30 years not too many overdrive pedals impress me. I currently use a Marshall Gov'nr+. Any other OTC people out there know of a better OD pedals?
So the key here is "tone" as in endless crunchy sustain without tonal mutation like 99% of the pedals do. Tube screamers are close but don't have enough umph. So may boutique pedals out there but too expensive to try. Best tone I can think of to replicate is Billy Gibbons, Charlie Sexton, Joe Bonamassa, ect...

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Being an OTC (Obsessive Tone Chaser) for over 30 years not too many overdrive pedals impress me. I currently use a Marshall Gov'nr+. Any other OTC people out there know of a better OD pedals?
So the key here is "tone" as in endless crunchy sustain without tonal mutation like 99% of the pedals do. Tube screamers are close but don't have enough umph. So may boutique pedals out there but too expensive to try. Best tone I can think of to replicate is Billy Gibbons, Charlie Sexton, Joe Bonamassa, ect...

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If you like the ts9, put a ge7 eq after it and set the eq flat and the level up a notch. You'll get the umph youre looking for.
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Unread 12-31-2012, 11:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Distortion pedal??

i got a bbq bucker pickup in my bridge and a vintage RAT and it sounds like billy gibbons to my ear
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The best distortion pedal I have ever heard is the CMAT Mods Brownie. It is a $135 new and it is built like a tank. There are a zillion great overdrive pedals so that makes it harder to pick just one. The CMAT Mods Signa Drive is one of the best for sure and it is also $135.


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Re: Distortion pedal??

Oh man this is a funny thread!
WE aren't given much info to go on here, but I'd buy the Jvm, Vm, Dsl distortion devises. they sound great to me!
you'll be able to cop anyones tone, just NOT the live tone. (some serious knowledge is need for this) turn the presence back for old skool, turn the pres up for new skool cool.
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OD Pedal - SD1 / TS9

Distortion Pedal - Wampler Pinnacle (billy gibbons trapped in a box)

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I have that one and love it. I also want to try a Wampler Plextortion, and also try stacking the two of them.
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I have that one and love it. I also want to try a Wampler Plextortion, and also try stacking the two of them.
It's the first 'distortion' box I've ever really loved plugging into ... it's a lot of fun.
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Re: Distortion pedal??

Like most of you, I have what I would classify as both "distortion" and "overdrive" pedals on my board, which I would generally distinguish between "dirtier/more saturated" and "cleaner" tones.


I currently use a Fulltone Plimsoul for more distorted tones: Fulltone Musical Products, Inc. | pedals | Plimsoul

I'm very impressed with the touch dynamics of this pedal, and typically use this one for the heavier rock stuff we do.

For strictly overdrive, I'm using the DigiTech Bad Monkey, which adds a nice bit of dirt/crunch for more of a classic rock tone. Both pedals are built to take the heavy abuse of regular gigging (with drunks spilling beer on your pedals, and ladies tripping over your pedalboard ).

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Thanks for all the ideas all! I think the Xotic BB preamp would fit my need. Not sure why someone got into string vibration magnification quantum phycis. Just looking for a new pedal. I guess some people just need to vent some geekness. OD and distortion down to the basic level is clipping a sine wave. OD soft and sloped, distortion hard and squared off. Really need to go no further but if you must, make somemore cute pics and requote me with more profound words of jibberish. I work with many physicists so I'm quite use to it. Love you guys! Really dig this forum. Thanks...peace out...
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Thanks for all the ideas all! I think the Xotic BB preamp would fit my need. Not sure why someone got into string vibration magnification quantum phycis. Just looking for a new pedal. I guess some people just need to vent some geekness. OD and distortion down to the basic level is clipping a sine wave. OD soft and sloped, distortion hard and squared off. Really need to go no further but if you must, make somemore cute pics and requote me with more profound words of jibberish. I work with many physicists so I'm quite use to it. Love you guys! Really dig this forum. Thanks...peace out...
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