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Unread 10-11-2012, 12:19 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I wish I had a 1959rr. They claimed they were available for sale when they came out , but none ever hit any of the midwestern shops I frequent, and I never buy gear I have not played.
I'd revisit that stance. I bought my 1959RR 2-3 years after its release unheard/unplayed. My #1 came via Musician's Friend in 1993 (the RR PCS as a matter of fact). My 2550, my 50th 1w amps, my 2203kk, far more than a half dozen Vs and an Explorer all bought before my eyes/hands were laid upom them. Regrets? A few. Even a lemon or a sendback here or there, but I'm way ahead overall.

I am fascinated by this board, but without it being Script MXR gear,et al, I can't imagine this thing having any value other than a collectable.
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I'd revisit that stance. I bought my 1959RR 2-3 years after its release unheard/unplayed. My #1 came via Musician's Friend in 1993 (the RR PCS as a matter of fact). My 2550, my 50th 1w amps, my 2203kk, far more than a half dozen Vs and an Explorer all bought before my eyes/hands were laid upom them. Regrets? A few. Even a lemon or a sendback here or there, but I'm way ahead overall.

I am fascinated by this board, but without it being Script MXR gear,et al, I can't imagine this thing having any value other than a collectable.

Would you say that your experiences ordering first without paying have been positive? Theres been a few instances where I almost pulled the trigger on something but I didnt due to fear of not laying my hands on if first? Silly probably but interested to hear your take VMan
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Would you say that your experiences ordering first without paying have been positive? Theres been a few instances where I almost pulled the trigger on something but I didnt due to fear of not laying my hands on if first? Silly probably but interested to hear your take VMan
When they are positive, they are HUGE...

- Rhoads PCS (my #1... hands down finest instrument)
- 2203KK factory wrapped and priced like it was stolen ... amazing
- 1959RR... What do I even say? this and the 2203 would be my top 2
- Gibson Explorer 90 rare as hell, awesome player bought '11, looked like it came out of a time capsule from '89


My worst experiences were either returned for refund or negotiated a fair discount. Maybe a few purchases I wouldn't do over again given the chance, but no ripoffs either.


OTOH, it seems like some of the more sour ones were FTF. It's like the less initial control, the more you try to CYA. The more you have a chance to fiddle with knobs amidst the excitement, the more complacent you might be.
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If you own a Marshall 1959RR I'll send you and invite to join the club. (and no, a white Class 5 wont get you into this exclusive club).
If not I'll post the pics up here.


I guess i'm ****'d , i just have a 6100 !!
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When they are positive, they are HUGE...

- Rhoads PCS (my #1... hands down finest instrument)
- 2203KK factory wrapped and priced like it was stolen ... amazing
- 1959RR... What do I even say? this and the 2203 would be my top 2
- Gibson Explorer 90 rare as hell, awesome player bought '11, looked like it came out of a time capsule from '89


My worst experiences were either returned for refund or negotiated a fair discount. Maybe a few purchases I wouldn't do over again given the chance, but no ripoffs either.


OTOH, it seems like some of the more sour ones were FTF. It's like the less initial control, the more you try to CYA. The more you have a chance to fiddle with knobs amidst the excitement, the more complacent you might be.
Thanks brother, exactly what I was lookin to hear.
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ARe you going to get in line for a 2+ years wait for the Carl Sandoval polka dot V guitar?
I'm still one 'V' ahead of you! (70's LP CUSTOM, polka V, Concord V, RR-V. I need a black sharkfin and 2 proto-types) I've got the SG that was traded and the 70's strat and the classical (hand made in spain of course) but no fender harvard or the fender 12 string. By no means my whole collection just the Rhoads part of it.
And I was RIGHT about the cascade mod being used................... :-P
BUT there is still an original proto-type V that was made for RR and was 'SOLD' at the namm show back in the day, and another that disappeared, so who will find these guitars?.............. what did they look like? i heard one was Black.......
apparently now I've got to buy 3 full marshall stacks and 2 more to put to the side so I'll then have the full tone!
did they all have altec's in the boxes? I don't see the chrome/silver cones.
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ARe you going to get in line for a 2+ years wait for the Carl Sandoval polka dot V guitar?
I'm still one 'V' ahead of you! (70's LP CUSTOM, polka V, Concord V, RR-V. I need a black sharkfin and 2 proto-types) I've got the SG that was traded and the 70's strat and the classical (hand made in spain of course) but no fender harvard or the fender 12 string. By no means my whole collection just the Rhoads part of it.
And I was RIGHT about the cascade mod being used................... :-P
BUT there is still an original proto-type V that was made for RR and was 'SOLD' at the namm show back in the day, and another that disappeared, so who will find these guitars?.............. what did they look like? i heard one was Black.......
apparently now I've got to buy 3 full marshall stacks and 2 more to put to the side so I'll then have the full tone!
did they all have altec's in the boxes? I don't see the chrome/silver cones.

if Karl ever quoted the same price twice....it's still not worth $4000 that was his lowest quote.

the V that was sold @ NAMM is owned by a guy named Sean Michael Clegg
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the story of how he got it was in guitar world a few years ago. lemme see if I still have that issue.
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ARe you going to get in line for a 2+ years wait for the Carl Sandoval polka dot V guitar?
I'm still one 'V' ahead of you! (70's LP CUSTOM, polka V, Concord V, RR-V. I need a black sharkfin and 2 proto-types) I've got the SG that was traded and the 70's strat and the classical (hand made in spain of course) but no fender harvard or the fender 12 string. By no means my whole collection just the Rhoads part of it.
I have ended up collecting more RR gear than any other hero of mine, but that is as much a love of the gear as it is a love of the player. For me, the "Rhoads Collection" is the '74 LP, the Sandoval, the Concord, the approved design (Black stringthrough). As you have pointed out, there is more behind the scenes to his arsenal, but I'm not nearly the collector. I have swayed back and forth over the RR LP, but it is simply too much for me these days.

As for the Sandoval... there is no sig series/tribute guitar on the planet more iconic and distinguishable than that V, IMO. While it may be worth KS' time to quote that price, at the end of the day it's an '84 style V w bowtie inlays, a funky headstock, polkadots and a fugly clashing rosewood board. South of $2k and I'd consider one to round out the collection after acquiring an LP. 4K+ puts the RR LP on the horizon, and buys a whole lot more V.


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did they all have altec's in the boxes? I don't see the chrome/silver cones.
That's what I have always heard, though upon close inspection, those cones poke through to the eye. Here was my prototype setup for the 1959RR:


(probably before the Altecs were dropped in)




Comparing the size of a 75W GT to a 100W Altec
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I'd revisit that stance. I bought my 1959RR 2-3 years after its release unheard/unplayed. My #1 came via Musician's Friend in 1993 (the RR PCS as a matter of fact). My 2550, my 50th 1w amps, my 2203kk, far more than a half dozen Vs and an Explorer all bought before my eyes/hands were laid upom them. Regrets? A few. Even a lemon or a sendback here or there, but I'm way ahead overall.

I am fascinated by this board, but without it being Script MXR gear,et al, I can't imagine this thing having any value other than a collectable.
I'm still in the market. If you know someone somewhere that as one sitting around I can play, please share !!
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My guy pulled out the pedal Board and it WAS the Zeus Board. It does'nt work and he still wants $1000. I'll pass...I've been getting pretty close on my 2204 anyway, just dimed with an O2 Chorus/Delay.
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My guy pulled out the pedal Board and it WAS the Zeus Board. It does'nt work and he still wants $1000. I'll pass...I've been getting pretty close on my 2204 anyway, just dimed with an O2 Chorus/Delay.
add an sd-1,MXR Dist+ or humped eq & you should be there.
I also use my vox wah more as a subtle flange effect rather than conventional wah style.

here's a tone sample over some backing track off the net.
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That MXR eq pedal is a big part of the RR sound, I use it on all the marshall amps. the Dist + I only use it on the Plexi type amps. (or if i'm trying to get a ZWylde type tone).KNow What you mean about the gibson RR LES paul. I spoke to the importer for my whole country and he told me they only got 2, one for him and one for the other business partner, they are both sitting in cases and haven't been touched, but he said he'll sell his one to me cause he needed the money to make a new building at his house, so he'd sell it for $16,000..What a generous guy! he limits supply and then ups the price. .I was luck with the Les paul i got, it was in unsaleable condition back in the late 90's and the shop called me and said "get down here, we've got something for you, but you'd have to fix it up". so I got it dirt cheap and I was lucky they hadn't destroyed the bridge holes. took me about 3 years to fully restore and wait for the wood to 'match' the dryness of the original and for the paint to dry and sink down and never show any 'glue lines' etc... As soon as i finished, 6 industry professionals wanted the guitar and still annoy me for it, they are even tempted to steal it from my house!.Our biggest competition is TIME. the further way from 1980 we get the harder it is to find stuff and get a good affordable price. One day Carl won't be making anymore and that will be the end of production. Don't forget, south american mahogany is not allowed to be sold! that makes things VERY difficult! I'm fortunate that I've got a big plank of it in my workshop, waiting to be turned into some guitars.
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ARe you going to get in line for a 2+ years wait for the Carl Sandoval polka dot V guitar?
I'm still one 'V' ahead of you! (70's LP CUSTOM, polka V, Concord V, RR-V. I need a black sharkfin and 2 proto-types) I've got the SG that was traded and the 70's strat and the classical (hand made in spain of course) but no fender harvard or the fender 12 string. By no means my whole collection just the Rhoads part of it.
And I was RIGHT about the cascade mod being used................... :-P
BUT there is still an original proto-type V that was made for RR and was 'SOLD' at the namm show back in the day, and another that disappeared, so who will find these guitars?.............. what did they look like? i heard one was Black.......
apparently now I've got to buy 3 full marshall stacks and 2 more to put to the side so I'll then have the full tone!
did they all have altec's in the boxes? I don't see the chrome/silver cones.

All that and you will still NEVER be Randy Rhoads.
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Glad to see I'm not the only Rhoads fanatic on the forum. Just picked up a 1959RR to add to my arsenal. Now I'm debating whether or not to keep my White 1987 Anniversary head. I'll have to play them side by side and see if there's enought difference to justify both. Also recently picked up a RR Les Paul Custom. I had a clone that I made out of a 1988 Les Paul that was yellowed, but I wanted to get the real thing. I thought it would be more of a conversation piece because I never thought I'd like to play any guitar over my #1, but it plays and feels great...as in, the best guitar I've ever owned. I'm glad it is that also and not just an expensive piece of memorabilia.

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add an sd-1,MXR Dist+ or humped eq & you should be there.
I also use my vox wah more as a subtle flange effect rather than conventional wah style.

here's a tone sample over some backing track off the net.
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I'm using a mix of chorus and delay to get the rig to sound "big' and it really works for me, especially if I go stereo to my other rig, two c5h into one re=speakered 1922 cab(gc12m).
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All that and you will still NEVER be Randy Rhoads.
But if one learns as many things as they can fronm Axe weilders of that ILK, their own name will mean something.
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MATE! If I can play all of 'tribute' note for note, harmonic for harmonic, and I've got longer hair and I'm twice as big as RR, that makes me better!
Not to mention I don't hang out with 'JUNKIES', and loose married chicks (gidday sharron) so that means I've lived longer!
People don't come up to me and ask for 'lame ass stuff', they cross the street when they see me commin'. they show me that I'm the king round here!
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Oh and I've been to your part of the world, all I saw was HOokers and Japanese walking around (not to mention the RADIATION floating round you from that little accident in Japan, hows the water? nice and warm?)
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MATE! If I can play all of 'tribute' note for note, harmonic for harmonic, and I've got longer hair and I'm twice as big as RR, that makes me better!
Not to mention I don't hang out with 'JUNKIES', and loose married chicks (gidday sharron) so that means I've lived longer!
People don't come up to me and ask for 'lame ass stuff', they cross the street when they see me commin'. they show me that I'm the king round here!
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Oh and I've been to your part of the world, all I saw was HOokers and Japanese walking around (not to mention the RADIATION floating round you from that little accident in Japan, hows the water? nice and warm?)
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have you been here?
I don't hate Japan. they are just a microcosm of the overpopulation coming to the rest of the world. I've been treated well and had a great time when I've been there. I love Australia as well, they know how to get down party wise there, and the gruff attitude reminds me of Southern Good ol boys. Only place I've traveled that truly sucks is Paris France. Every single punk I met there needed an urbangy stomp style hillbilly ass whoopin. What a rude and arrogant Bunch.Those guys To be so rude and not have the heart to throw down is what makes them laughable.
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I don't hate Japan. they are just a microcosm of the overpopulation coming to the rest of the world. I've been treated well and had a great time when I've been there. I love Australia as well, they know how to get down party wise there, and the gruff attitude reminds me of Southern Good ol boys. Only place I've traveled that truly sucks is Paris France. Every single punk I met there needed an urbangy stomp style hillbilly ass whoopin. What a rude and arrogant Bunch.Those guys To be so rude and not have the heart to throw down is what makes them laughable.
Funny you say that I went to Paris a few years back and they were a bunch of kiss asses. Friendly & outgoing. Seemed to have a fair amount of respect for me except saying American's have no culture.
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MATE! If I can play all of 'tribute' note for note, harmonic for harmonic, and I've got longer hair and I'm twice as big as RR, that makes me better!
Not to mention I don't hang out with 'JUNKIES', and loose married chicks (gidday sharron) so that means I've lived longer!
People don't come up to me and ask for 'lame ass stuff', they cross the street when they see me commin'. they show me that I'm the king round here!
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Oh and I've been to your part of the world, all I saw was HOokers and Japanese walking around (not to mention the RADIATION floating round you from that little accident in Japan, hows the water? nice and warm?)
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have you been here?
I would love to hear you play, can you please post a recording of you playing some Randy Rhoads for us.
Because you keep ignoring me and my request's, it leads us all to believe you are full of shit.
You probably don't even own a Marshall for ****'s sake.
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Funny you say that I went to Paris a few years back and they were a bunch of kiss asses. Friendly & outgoing. Seemed to have a fair amount of respect for me except saying American's have no culture.
As far as culture,Just the French version of cork sniffing. What have they done lately?
Looks like their "culture" is being bred out by Muslim Immigrants. The same thing was happening in Germany in the 80's with all the Turkish immigrants,the difference is that the Germans are not afraid to make sure their culture stays "their own" culture.
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Even a person who can play Tribute note for note is nowhere close to being the player Rhoads was. He played it on the fly, different every night. He was the master of improvisation. Every night was a different song. So, playing his stuff is impressive, no doubt. But remember who it was that WROTE his stuff.

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"Honey, I can't come to bed now, somebody is WRONG on the Internet"!
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Guys! I think all of the 'possible' songs to be played on a guitar have already been played. every note! every tone!
somebody else has already played half of my guitars! my amps are COPIES of others players amps!
I even learned to walk watching MOM and DAD.
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I have put lots of amp settings on the net and 2 people say they like them. Why would I spend my whole day trying to record (with no record gear) just to put on here for nobody to comment, and have the authorities get more info on me to use against me in court. more items to reposses, sell to pay divorce bills, lawyers fees, child support etc...
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Esspecially now anything we put on here is to be kept for 2 years in my part of the world.
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Improv's,? well, playing through THE rr amp - it's SO loud I can't even hear the rest of the guys playing, so, it's all improv's after a short while.
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there was an Interview of angus young back in the day and he was asked "aren't you just 'rehashing' what has already been done? do you hear anything new"?
and Angus said "yeah, and you want something new, check out that little guy Randy Rhoads, he's got plenty of 'new' stuff.
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Farrrk! I cant keep with this logic at all.!!
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Unread 10-14-2012, 09:28 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Re: Randy Rhoads Pedal Board?

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Unread 10-15-2012, 09:45 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Re: Randy Rhoads Pedal Board?

I just used Randy's pedals to get the 'Live' sound from 'Bats Head Soup' live in Cleveland 11 May 1981. This sound is REALLY full on! It definitly has multiple amps in the recording so I can do that sound, but a goal of mine was to get the sound as 'Quiet as Possible', even I didn't think it was possible listening to the vinyl recording.
to my supprise after a few hours of adjusting my set up and re playing the vinyl record I believe I came extremely close.
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there is a quote on the cover of the album "Excellent Stereo Play This LOUD" - (this is very true)
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My setting for those who wish to try;
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JTM 30 - 1x 12" speaker - settings - VOL 1.5, Gain full, Bass full, Mids full, Trebles 6.
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This is a Warm high gain marshall sound (appears to have not much Bass ) If your useing a different amp you'll have to adjust accordingly
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Clean Boost pedal (to compensate for 'cascade' gain) 'sexdrive' Gain just on, Level 90 percent (5 o'clock), Tone 5 o'clock (little bit less) NO Comp.
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Mxr EQ (this is to add to the gain and compensate for the amp used and to get the drive from the speakers at low vol) '100' full boost +18, '200' +15, '400' +12, '800' +8,'1.6K' +8, '3.2K' +7.
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Distortion+, Output 11 o'clock, Distortion full.
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this much gain in the sound means the notes have almost endess sustain!
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I also came across a tone that another Famous guy had which I did not expect at all. (Zakk Wylde's tone when he Demoed the 1959 RR, if you get that tone, just roll back the Vol on your guitar and you get RR's main sound).
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