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Unread 09-10-2012, 10:18 AM   #31 (permalink)
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He used protools plugins for his guitar sound on saints.

I can get pretty close to his sound through my 2203 and MHD 5150s! Awesome player and they put on a great live show!!

Did he ever use stock jcm 800s at the start of motley? Or always with the gain mod
From what I believe, it was a 1973 Jose-modded JMP. Mick sold it to Richard Fortus of Guns 'n Hoaxes and he uses it on tour with them.

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Unread 09-17-2012, 03:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Mick Mars must be one of the most underrated rock guitar players of all time. Straight money, but always overlooked.
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no, i really think its pretty lousy.

all top and bottom, brittle and boomy, no "body".
I disagree, I've seen them live several times over the last 25 years and His live tone always totally smoked. his Mix with Nikki and Tommy is the perfect 80's 3 piece sound IMO.
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I disagree, I've seen them live several times over the last 25 years and His live tone always totally smoked. his Mix with Nikki and Tommy is the perfect 80's 3 piece sound IMO.

never seen them, i was talking about the "girls girls girls" tone.
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Unread 09-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #35 (permalink)
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never seen them, i was talking about the "girls girls girls" tone.
You should before they are done..They put on a excellent show
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Unread 09-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Last night I wen to see Kiss and Motley Crue...Motley shouldve played last cause Kiss wasnt as good..meaning their lights and stage....good concert in all!! Some opener played also..They were also tight!! I walked away with Mick mars tone stuck in my head!!!Anybody know how to get that tone??? Thanks!
Contact Trace Davis at Voodoo amps..... He has worked on Micks amp that was used on the Dr Feel good album and knows the mods done to it.

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Rig-Talk • View topic - Who does the best Jose sounding mod?

As we have received emails regarding this thread I thought I would post here - Our HG-Jose Mod is not the same as the schematic that has been posted on this forum. While that is a cool sounding circuit Jose performed many different Mods. We also worked on the Jose modded Marshall Mick Mars used on Motley Crue's “Dr Feelgood“ album. It is a very cool amp and capable of a lot of many different tones but nails those tones perfectly. It was voiced with Celestion Greenbacks and while it works with other speaker types it sounds best with Greenbacks. Much like most of his amps we have worked on it used all tube distortion (no zeners). Also a majority of these have the Master Volume after the EQ section.


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Rig-Talk • View topic - Who does the best Jose sounding mod?

As we have received emails regarding this thread I thought I would post here - Our HG-Jose Mod is not the same as the schematic that has been posted on this forum. While that is a cool sounding circuit Jose performed many different Mods. We also worked on the Jose modded Marshall Mick Mars used on Motley Crue's “Dr Feelgood“ album. It is a very cool amp and capable of a lot of many different tones but nails those tones perfectly. It was voiced with Celestion Greenbacks and while it works with other speaker types it sounds best with Greenbacks. Much like most of his amps we have worked on it used all tube distortion (no zeners). Also a majority of these have the Master Volume after the EQ section.


Have a great day guys!
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Thanks you sir!!! That was pretty intrested.!
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Unread 11-19-2012, 10:01 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Thanks you sir!!! That was pretty intrested.!
Thank you Larrs for spotting this. We did in fact work on Mick Mars' #1 recording amp and Richard Fortus of Guns N' Roses purchased it from Mick as mentioned in the video Rig Rundown posted up above.

A few years ago we received the amp as Richard needed a back up. We have worked on many Jose Modded Marshalls over the years but this one was different. I have seen some others that were some what close but Richard was right when he said this amp was head and shoulders above the others. The back story goes; Mick was selling some of his Marshalls and Modded Marshalls. He had about 50 amps and approximately 25 were Jose Modded. Richard tried them all and really liked a specific one. Mick said "That is my #1 favorite recording amp and I retired it from the road." Richard said he would pick another one but as he insisted that Richard take the one he connected with.

Richard purchased the amp from Mick and wanted to take it on the road. Much the same as any pro player that tours, Richard needed a back up amp. When I connected with Richard he had 3 other amp companies try to build a clone but for what ever reason they seemed to fall short for him.

The amp started life in 1973 as a 4 input 1959 model Super Lead. Richard sent the amp to me so I could go through it as it was in need of some TLC. When we received the amp, there were some other 73' Super Leads on the pallet. The idea was to go through and find the amp that would best match the Jose Modded amp. Though the amps were all manufactured within 3 months of one another the transformers were all different from one another. Voltages varied, lam thickness varied, etc. I settled on one that I felt would be the best choice, which happens to also be featured in the Rig Rundown video up above.

I also suggested that he let me build him a true clone from the ground up so that we could truly match the amp properly as it was such a cool sounding amp. I had Mercury Magnetics clone the transformers from the original Jose Modded Marshall and we built a replica for Richard. He toured with it as the main amp and after he played with Thin Lizzy the amp stayed in Europe so he could use it when he was there (he now has 2 prototype amps of his signature series).

We have done this same Mod for a few other well known players and also offer it to the public, for those in the know that is (lol). Without transformers the Mod tends to run $595. The Mod has to be done on a 100watt 1959 Super Lead, reissue or 70's version. If anyone is interested please feel free to email or call me at the shop.

Time to head to bed as I have to travel to NYC to meet up with Aerosmith at Madison Square Garden. All the best and I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!


Cheers;
Trace

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Yeah i knew d standard....I saw a jmp1 in one picture..but he has soldanos and a jcm 800 also..
he's oldschool man he just gets a plexi, super strat with high gain pickups and floors it. if i get more info though i'll be sure to pass it along to you my friend
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His tone on Live wire is the tone thats stuck in my head. Love it.
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One of my favorite bands to see live. Scat, you should check them out sometime. Great show.
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Trace,,, thats a great story. I followed your progress for over a dozen yrs now. Good stuff!
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Unread 11-20-2012, 11:27 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Jose was the man! And still is!
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Trace,,, thats a great story. I followed your progress for over a dozen yrs now. Good stuff!
Wow thanks Billy, that was very nice of you to post and I sincerely appreciate that!

Just got into the shop after 8 hours on the road and 4 hours of sleep (need strong coffee—lol) Worked on some amps for Brad Whitford and Joe Perry backstage at Madison Square Garden yesterday and dropped off 1 of our new 1x12” Iso-Cabs. If you haven't seen Aerosmith live recently, I have to say it's a must. They are outstanding and man can that band they play!

I have to put the finishing touches on a guitar switcher I just finished designing. It has 1 in 6 outs that are transformer isolated, each output has a stop switch as well as a phase reverse & ground lift for each output. You can send the signal anywhere or run up to 6 amps at once.

It’s time to wake up and get some espresso! (lol) Happy Thanksgiving to those in the states and I hope everyone else has a great week.


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Thank you Larrs for spotting this. We did in fact work on Mick Mars' #1 recording amp and Richard Fortus of Guns N' Roses purchased it from Mick as mentioned in the video Rig Rundown posted up above.

A few years ago we received the amp as Richard needed a back up. We have worked on many Jose Modded Marshalls over the years but this one was different. I have seen some others that were some what close but Richard was right when he said this amp was head and shoulders above the others. The back story goes; Mick was selling some of his Marshalls and Modded Marshalls. He had about 50 amps and approximately 25 were Jose Modded. Richard tried them all and really liked a specific one. Mick said "That is my #1 favorite recording amp and I retired it from the road." Richard said he would pick another one but as he insisted that Richard take the one he connected with.

Richard purchased the amp from Mick and wanted to take it on the road. Much the same as any pro player that tours, Richard needed a back up amp. When I connected with Richard he had 3 other amp companies try to build a clone but for what ever reason they seemed to fall short for him.

The amp started life in 1973 as a 4 input 1959 model Super Lead. Richard sent the amp to me so I could go through it as it was in need of some TLC. When we received the amp, there were some other 73' Super Leads on the pallet. The idea was to go through and find the amp that would best match the Jose Modded amp. Though the amps were all manufactured within 3 months of one another the transformers were all different from one another. Voltages varied, lam thickness varied, etc. I settled on one that I felt would be the best choice, which happens to also be featured in the Rig Rundown video up above.

I also suggested that he let me build him a true clone from the ground up so that we could truly match the amp properly as it was such a cool sounding amp. I had Mercury Magnetics clone the transformers from the original Jose Modded Marshall and we built a replica for Richard. He toured with it as the main amp and after he played with Thin Lizzy the amp stayed in Europe so he could use it when he was there (he now has 2 prototype amps of his signature series).

We have done this same Mod for a few other well known players and also offer it to the public, for those in the know that is (lol). Without transformers the Mod tends to run $595. The Mod has to be done on a 100watt 1959 Super Lead, reissue or 70's version. If anyone is interested please feel free to email or call me at the shop.

Time to head to bed as I have to travel to NYC to meet up with Aerosmith at Madison Square Garden. All the best and I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving!


Cheers;
Trace
Damn!!!! That amp has a story huh?!
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he's oldschool man he just gets a plexi, super strat with high gain pickups and floors it. if i get more info though i'll be sure to pass it along to you my friend
Thanks Die!! How is the whole record deal going?!
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slash is Unsuccessful imitation of mick mars

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Trace,,, the amp switcher sounds awesome .
Yeah dude us east coast boys gotta stick together haha.

Anyway take care man!
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Man I tell yah, the planet is ROUND! no east/ west coast.
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I was scared you were going to comment ...
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I laugh at people who are assholes for no reason!

When i go buck wild i have a legitimate cause behind it.

But let me pay attention and give dude his 2 second validation. He is going to be so bored by my lack of reaction to his bullshit he will go back to lookin for his lost pecker.

Ok dreyn77,,, i know,,, i know.. your stuck in your bedroom with no woman, a full bottle of lotion and you cant find your junk. I understand you must hate the world but you were on my other posts ...

like a bug flyin around the light my brother.

This is not the fight your looking for...


Trace ,,, badass!
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Coulda sworn i read Mick used Scholz stuff on Girls
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I love his tone on Shout At The Devil and Looks That Kill.
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Ikr this thread had me on youtube listening to old crue...

I wasnt into them as much as the girls were but the sound is pure Jose.

He did alot of mods. Some sounded super and some are not that great to me but he modded for a variety of picky dudes who wanted more gain than the last guy.


Some people search for the gain at its highest and the best Jose mods are the ones in the low to the upper middle of the spectrum. There is a level that is too much gain
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This might be a stupid question...But I will ask anyway! Did Mick always use the beat to shit white (70s?) Fender Superstrat??
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He used to use les pauls then he went to the Strat styles. I never followed him that much so i cant say what he used. Maybe someone here knows more indepth info.

I think he was fond of the sd jb humbucker and used Jose modded Marshalls until Drr Feelgood where he did the Soldano deal.
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yeah I heard about the whole Jose/Plexi thing..I think he used Dimarzio Super Distortions though not SD JBs..I might be wrong though!
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Superdistortion was the main pickup of choice in the late 70s/early 80s which might have been in his Les Pauls.

He looks like he might have been in the Kiss Army lol. Thats what Frehley used

I think the JB was in the "Kramer " era ...
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He used Kramers?? Where the hell have I been!!
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I was under the impression he used...... (may not be exact)

-sd jbs early on
-too fast for love 81-83 tours - les paul customs
-shout at the devil 83-84 tour - les paul customs, bc rich warlock, gibson flying v, guild flying star
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-girls girls girls 87-88 tour - custom shop kramer telecasters

he is the type of player that will play anything the sounds good!
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