Need a "Transparent" OD

wolverine1190 · 07-13-2012, 08:56 PM

I know.. here we go again. Another thread where someone is on the long search for the perfect OD pedal. Still, I'm hoping to get some good feedback from you guys... Anyway, here's the story:

My current setup, as far as the amp and cab goes, is a 1987 Marshall JCM 800 2205 through a 1980's lead 4x12 with x pattern Hellatone 60's and G12T-75's. I run it with the channel and MV dimed and the gain on the boost channel around 2:00 - 2:30, just before the diodes really start to kick in and add hiss. I'm in love with my amp and tone.. it sounds absolutely killer. Loads of aggression and chunk, and very defined notes. Perfect hard rock tone. It's just shy of pulling off metal though, which is no surprise. So I currently have a reissue 808 tubescreamer to push it there, running almost no OD and full level. It makes the amp scream, which is exactly what I'm going for.

The problem? Without the TS boost, the overall EQ of my amp sounds just how I want it: pretty balanced, nice low end chunk but still lots of aggressive mids and clarity. With the TS, there's obviously a change in the overall EQ: the low end is cut and the mids are boosted. Not a bad sound, very nice for leads and thrash rhythms. But to my ears, it cuts a bit too much of the low end. I seem to lose a lot of low mid "growl" with the TS on, it doesn't sound as "big", although it does "scream" more.

What am I looking for? Heh... basically an OD that does exactly what my TS does except doesnt change my EQ so drastically, or not at all. I want more tube driven gain from the OD pedal pounding my amp, just without cutting some of the goodies from my overall sound.

So, I'd love suggestions as to some OD's that do exactly that. It doesn't have to be completely clean, I don't mind a touch of dirt (like the TS). I'm researching and googling things in the mean time, but I'd love to get some opinions from you guys. Thanks in advance.

chuckelator · 07-13-2012, 09:14 PM

Boss BD-2....Trust me on this.

It may be a Boss, but that is still one killer pedal. Mine is modded, but even in it's stock form, is a killer, transparent OD. Stock it doesn't add a huge ammount of grit, but if you're just looking for a bit of extra grit and a power boost, that's the ticket.

HOT TUBES 70 · 07-13-2012, 11:46 PM

I know this guy who hangs out around here who mods pedals , he says that he can build a Boss SD1 that can produce a very clean OD , but yet add some good usable gain !!

But , you could modify your TS808 ... and get very close results .

HOT TUBES 70 · 07-13-2012, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckelator

Boss BD-2....Trust me on this.

It may be a Boss, but that is still one killer pedal. Mine is modded, but even in it's stock form, is a killer, transparent OD. Stock it doesn't add a huge ammount of grit, but if you're just looking for a bit of extra grit and a power boost, that's the ticket.

Chuck's right !!

The BD2 is one of those Boss pedals that everyone rights off , as being a Blues only thing !!

Horse Shit i say !!!

Those can also sound very good with the right stuff done inside !

V-man · 07-14-2012, 01:33 AM

The best transparent OD, IMO is the Tim or Timmy by Paul C. This pedal was actually based around a Marshall Super Bass, not a Fender, like everything else.

HOT TUBES 70 · 07-14-2012, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V-man

The best transparent OD, IMO is the Tim or Timmy by Paul C. This pedal was actually based around a Marshall Super Bass, not a Fender, like everything else.

yep , this pedal gets consistent positive reviews !!
Only down side is the price , and the wait time to get one built !

Jason77 · 07-14-2012, 09:16 AM

The BD-2 is one of the best pedals I've had, out of the box, for exactly what you want to use it for.

Rozman62 · 07-14-2012, 10:15 AM

Good lord you must play at ear splitting volumes with diming the volume. I suggest Fulltone 2 OD or a Maxon 808.

Georgiatec · 07-14-2012, 10:35 AM

+1 on the Boss BD-2...my go to O/D, or....and don't laugh, a Joyo Roll Boost. Very basic, very cheap and a very transparent 35db of gain available. I got one a few days ago and it's just what you are after. If I had to nit pick the high end goes a little when you max it out, but that sounds like it could suit you from what you posted.

HOT TUBES 70 · 07-14-2012, 01:17 PM

If your looking to keep things on the cheap side ....
These sound pretty damn good for what they are !!!
You all laugh , but i reboxed one of these and people were very impressed with its tone !!
( My reboxed unit below )

Georgiatec · 07-14-2012, 02:06 PM

Does exactly what it says on the tin

RazorDave · 07-14-2012, 04:27 PM

Mate, the MXR Micro Amp is super clean, doesnt affect your amps tone and will increase your gain like a mofo, BUT, it doesnt tighten your riffs like the 808 does. Im suprised you feel the 808 cuts low end? I dont hear that on mine at all, what I do hear is a slight increase in mids, that can sometimes cover up some of the lows, but they are still there. Anyway, Look into the Micro Amp. The boosta grande aint half bad either.

RazorDave · 07-14-2012, 04:32 PM

I really want an Onfloor SD1 bad, money is just always tight for me these days.

rokcabilly · 07-14-2012, 05:16 PM

Maybe you are looking for a clean boost? I tried modded and stock SD-1's, the FD-2 was nice, but I'm in LOVE with my Xotic EP boost. It's like the preamp of an old echo plex in a tiny 1 knob pedal. It has a couple of dip switches inside to adjust bass and treble to taste. Check your local Guitar Center. I bought 1 to test it for a night of rehearsal, and I figured I would return it to GC the next day(30 Day money back guarantee). Well, it's still on my board, on all the time, and I can't live without it! Seriously, give it a try, I think you'll be stoked. I have an MKIII, which gets extra gain from a diode clipping knob, and I use the EP booster rather than engaging that knob at all.
http://http://www.xotic.us/effects/ep_booster/

Bieling3 · 07-15-2012, 02:46 AM

I'd go with the ep booster. I have the Boss BD-2 right now and... it might just be that I'm playing through a Vintage Modern, but, it adds some unpleasantness to the high end that is just barely per eptible but annoying as all hell.

Other pedals I'm thinking about replacing the BD-2 with are the BYOC Tri-boost, the Catalinbread Naga Viper, or either a Blackarts Toneworks Ritual or Revelation...

...of course I'm looking for more of that tone:

Catalinbread Naga Viper: Into a 100 watt Plexi Full-stack - YouTube

ReiGnMaN · 07-15-2012, 01:01 PM

Just a thought......

I can't run any overdrives in front of my Lee Jackson modded 2204 without feeling the same as you.. MY solution came in the shape of a blue MXR 10 band eq.. However, once that shit the bed, I purchased a biyang 10 band eq (footswitchable on off / True Bypass / clean boost ) and voila..... Solo boost, "pinchies" etc when needed

might be worth looking into.

Marshallmaniac · 07-15-2012, 07:31 PM

My stock Boss SD-1 is very transparent. It really seems to only add gain and maybe a very slight mid boost. I personally didn't like when I modded it and prefer stock.

AudioWonderland · 07-16-2012, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverine1190

I know.. here we go again. Another thread where someone is on the long search for the perfect OD pedal. Still, I'm hoping to get some good feedback from you guys... Anyway, here's the story:

My current setup, as far as the amp and cab goes, is a 1987 Marshall JCM 800 2205 through a 1980's lead 4x12 with x pattern Hellatone 60's and G12T-75's. I run it with the channel and MV dimed and the gain on the boost channel around 2:00 - 2:30, just before the diodes really start to kick in and add hiss. I'm in love with my amp and tone.. it sounds absolutely killer. Loads of aggression and chunk, and very defined notes. Perfect hard rock tone. It's just shy of pulling off metal though, which is no surprise. So I currently have a reissue 808 tubescreamer to push it there, running almost no OD and full level. It makes the amp scream, which is exactly what I'm going for.

The problem? Without the TS boost, the overall EQ of my amp sounds just how I want it: pretty balanced, nice low end chunk but still lots of aggressive mids and clarity. With the TS, there's obviously a change in the overall EQ: the low end is cut and the mids are boosted. Not a bad sound, very nice for leads and thrash rhythms. But to my ears, it cuts a bit too much of the low end. I seem to lose a lot of low mid "growl" with the TS on, it doesn't sound as "big", although it does "scream" more.

What am I looking for? Heh... basically an OD that does exactly what my TS does except doesnt change my EQ so drastically, or not at all. I want more tube driven gain from the OD pedal pounding my amp, just without cutting some of the goodies from my overall sound.

So, I'd love suggestions as to some OD's that do exactly that. It doesn't have to be completely clean, I don't mind a touch of dirt (like the TS). I'm researching and googling things in the mean time, but I'd love to get some opinions from you guys. Thanks in advance.

MXR Micro amp

Georgiatec · 07-16-2012, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bieling3

I'd go with the ep booster. I have the Boss BD-2 right now and... it might just be that I'm playing through a Vintage Modern, but, it adds some unpleasantness to the high end that is just barely per eptible but annoying as all hell.

Other pedals I'm thinking about replacing the BD-2 with are the BYOC Tri-boost, the Catalinbread Naga Viper, or either a Blackarts Toneworks Ritual or Revelation...

...of course I'm looking for more of that tone:

Catalinbread Naga Viper: Into a 100 watt Plexi Full-stack - YouTube

Yeah...my 2466 doesn't like O/D's much either. I tend to just crank it an control from the guitar. Haven't tried the Joyo Roll Boost with yet though

wolverine1190 · 07-16-2012, 07:32 PM

Wow, more replies than I expected! Thanks guys! It seems like quite a few of you think the Boss pedal will do the trick.. I might pick one up and try it out, can't hurt! I've also heard many good things about the Tim or Timmy OD. I'm hesitant to buy something without being able to try it though... And as far as using an equalizer for a boost goes, I do have an MXR 10 band EQ, didn't really think to put that out front and boost it. I wonder if it will be enought boost though, as it only boosts 12 db where the 808 is about 30 db I think. I'll try that out too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorDave

Mate, the MXR Micro Amp is super clean, doesnt affect your amps tone and will increase your gain like a mofo, BUT, it doesnt tighten your riffs like the 808 does. Im suprised you feel the 808 cuts low end? I dont hear that on mine at all, what I do hear is a slight increase in mids, that can sometimes cover up some of the lows, but they are still there. Anyway, Look into the Micro Amp. The boosta grande aint half bad either.

^^^ In regards to that, yeah I guess it's possible the increase in mids are covering up the low end. I did, however, record some clips with and without a tubescreamer pushing the amp and then analyzed the frequency plots. With the tubescreamer, there was a good chunk of the low end rolled off and a healthy boost to the mids. I don't mind a bit of mid boost, but for some reason the tone just gets so much smaller with the tubescreamer on.. the voicing of the amp just seems to be higher, frequency wise. Which, like I said, isn't bad because (like you said) it tightens up the bottom end. I actually love that about it. But the low growl thats probably somewhere between 200 Hz and 500 Hz just doesn't come through anymore, for whatever reason.

If I can find the clips I recorded I'll upload the plots. Thanks for everything so far guys.

wolverine1190 · 07-16-2012, 07:49 PM

Ok so here's the two plots, one without the 808 on the left, and with the 808 on the right. I tried to line up the DB markers on each plots scales so it's easier to analyze. You'll notice that there is a boost to the mids, especially around 700 Hz and more in the upper mids between 1 KHz and 2.5 KHz. You'll also notice, though, that the big bass "hump" from about 300 Hz down is much lower db wise with the 808 on than with it off.

ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

If you click this link (^^^) and then click the photo, it will zoom in. Not sure if seeing this helps explain things, not that you all didn't understand already, but at least they are fun to look at

(or at least, I think so haha)

zenfly · 07-18-2012, 12:09 PM

I always run stereo with a clean Dr.Z and my OD/Distortion through my JTM45..

Hendrix was running Marshall's when I saw him and a Fender twin at the same time regardless of what you've read.. I was there through all this history from the 50s and forward and as far as I'm concerened he kicked the door down for all this that happened later.. Clapton / Page and all those guys were stunned by him..

If you happen to have 2 amps try it sometime..

RussBert · 07-18-2012, 08:45 PM

Tim or Timmy. They are the shizzle for Marshall's

DPTONE5 · 07-18-2012, 09:17 PM

After trying a ton of OD pedals, I think the Fulltone Fulldrive II Mosfet is very transparent and provides just the right amount of kick.

Adrian R · 07-18-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rozman62

Good lord you must play at ear splitting volumes with diming the volume. I suggest Fulltone 2 OD or a Maxon 808.

Absolutely. The Fulltone (Fulldrive 2) blows away the tube screamers..and is extremely transparent IF NEED BE...However, it also produces one HELLOVA a clean overdrive sound as well... Its priced right too...about a buck fifty..handmade in the USA...

Rockerduck · 07-19-2012, 10:54 AM

Try the Xotic BB preamp. Most transparent I've played. I took my SD-1 and TS-808 off my board because it sounds better than both.

Jason77 · 07-19-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussBert

OH HELL YES!! I wanted one of these but they sold out before I could get one.

Skotosynthesis · 07-19-2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenfly

I always run stereo with a clean Dr.Z and my OD/Distortion through my JTM45..

Hendrix was running Marshall's when I saw him and a Fender twin at the same time regardless of what you've read.. I was there through all this history from the 50s and forward and as far as I'm concerened he kicked the door down for all this that happened later.. Clapton / Page and all those guys were stunned by him..

If you happen to have 2 amps try it sometime..

yeah from what I understand he didn't use just Marshalls...
settled on them in the end, though.
I remember reading an article about a Sunn sponsorship he had where he just played those for one whole tour- summer of '68 I think it said. It also said he didn't like them too much. They kept blowing up on him.

In the Monterey video, there's a big Fender amp, stage right, with the indicator light clearly on. I don't know how much of it the camera mikes captured though, with that gigantic JTM roaring beside it!

Fe911 · 07-19-2012, 03:04 PM

I've been going through overdrive pedals lately to find a good one. I've found that some work really well on some amps, and so-so on others. The full drive 2 works really well on my jtm 45. But not as good on my 2204, 2203, or class 5. But it still sounds really good. The sd-1. Is a pretty good pedal for all amps, but it definitely has a flavor to it that colors the tone. The same with my ts-9, good pedal, but it has it's own sound. Instant SRV.
Ive got a Tim. It's number one. I've heard people say transparent before, and never really experienced anything like it. That was really impressive to me. Plus getting used to the backwards tone controls took a little while. And I think the best part is that it has it's own loop when the pedal is engaged. And I can move it from amp to amp, and there is no let down.
You can find them used. I bought mine for 180 shipped off of the gear page. Definitely worth it!

07-13-2012, 08:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
wolverine1190 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 9	Need a "Transparent" OD I know.. here we go again. Another thread where someone is on the long search for the perfect OD pedal. Still, I'm hoping to get some good feedback from you guys... Anyway, here's the story: My current setup, as far as the amp and cab goes, is a 1987 Marshall JCM 800 2205 through a 1980's lead 4x12 with x pattern Hellatone 60's and G12T-75's. I run it with the channel and MV dimed and the gain on the boost channel around 2:00 - 2:30, just before the diodes really start to kick in and add hiss. I'm in love with my amp and tone.. it sounds absolutely killer. Loads of aggression and chunk, and very defined notes. Perfect hard rock tone. It's just shy of pulling off metal though, which is no surprise. So I currently have a reissue 808 tubescreamer to push it there, running almost no OD and full level. It makes the amp scream, which is exactly what I'm going for. The problem? Without the TS boost, the overall EQ of my amp sounds just how I want it: pretty balanced, nice low end chunk but still lots of aggressive mids and clarity. With the TS, there's obviously a change in the overall EQ: the low end is cut and the mids are boosted. Not a bad sound, very nice for leads and thrash rhythms. But to my ears, it cuts a bit too much of the low end. I seem to lose a lot of low mid "growl" with the TS on, it doesn't sound as "big", although it does "scream" more. What am I looking for? Heh... basically an OD that does exactly what my TS does except doesnt change my EQ so drastically, or not at all. I want more tube driven gain from the OD pedal pounding my amp, just without cutting some of the goodies from my overall sound. So, I'd love suggestions as to some OD's that do exactly that. It doesn't have to be completely clean, I don't mind a touch of dirt (like the TS). I'm researching and googling things in the mean time, but I'd love to get some opinions from you guys. Thanks in advance.

07-13-2012, 09:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
chuckelator Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,664	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Boss BD-2....Trust me on this. It may be a Boss, but that is still one killer pedal. Mine is modded, but even in it's stock form, is a killer, transparent OD. Stock it doesn't add a huge ammount of grit, but if you're just looking for a bit of extra grit and a power boost, that's the ticket. HOT TUBES 70, Georgiatec and Marshallmaniac like this. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/chuckelator http://shoulderthecrow.bandcamp.com/ My band, Shoulder the Crow!!! 1973 Marshall JMP 50 Early 70's Ampeg V4 90's Egnater TOL 100 212 combo(Rocktron version) 2010 Vox AC4TV reissue Marshall Lead 12 110 combo Jet City 20 112 combo 1973 Marshall 1960B 412 (Greenbacks) Avatar 212 (Eminence Legends) 2010 Fender American Standard Telecaster Early 80's Charvel Model 2 (MIJ)

07-13-2012, 11:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saskatoon , Canada Posts: 8,798	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD I know this guy who hangs out around here who mods pedals , he says that he can build a Boss SD1 that can produce a very clean OD , but yet add some good usable gain !! But , you could modify your TS808 ... and get very close results . __________________ Custom pedals Pedal modifications

07-14-2012, 01:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
V-man Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,821	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD The best transparent OD, IMO is the Tim or Timmy by Paul C. This pedal was actually based around a Marshall Super Bass, not a Fender, like everything else. __________________ If you are wondering why I am no longer posting/on-site: http://www.marshallforum.com/backsta...ds-grunch.html

07-14-2012, 09:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jason77 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 718	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD The BD-2 is one of the best pedals I've had, out of the box, for exactly what you want to use it for. __________________ '02 LP standard '98 SG-Z DSL 100 & 50 1960B with v30/g12h30 mix TU-2 < MXR carbon copy < MXR micro flanger < OCD < OC-2 < peppermint fuzz < wilson wah

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07-14-2012, 10:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rozman62 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 464	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Good lord you must play at ear splitting volumes with diming the volume. I suggest Fulltone 2 OD or a Maxon 808. Adrian R likes this. __________________ Guitars-Fender, Gibson, Ibanez, Schecter, Talkamine, Yamaha. Amps-Marshall, Orange, Blackstar, GK. Cabs: Marshall, Orange, Mesa, Avatar.

07-14-2012, 10:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
Georgiatec Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Macclesfield, UK Posts: 2,065	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD +1 on the Boss BD-2...my go to O/D, or....and don't laugh, a Joyo Roll Boost. Very basic, very cheap and a very transparent 35db of gain available. I got one a few days ago and it's just what you are after. If I had to nit pick the high end goes a little when you max it out, but that sounds like it could suit you from what you posted. __________________ JCM2000 DSL100 & 401 COMBO VINTAGE MODERN 2466 & 425A CAB 2061x JCM1H 1960B CAB MARSHALL 412, 1922 & 1912 CABS 1978 PEAVEY CLASSIC 212 COMBO '04 GIBSON LES PAUL CLASSIC '12 GIBSON LES PAUL TRADITIONAL STD PREMIUM '00 USA STANDARD TELECASTER FENDER MODERN PLAYER TELE+ '94 FENDER MIJ '62 RI FOTOFLAME STRATOCASTER EPIPHONE LP std+ (498T & 490R), VINTAGE VS6 (SG) & SA535 (335) COPIES. IF YOU CHANGE SHIT, THEN SHIT WILL CHANGE. IF YOU DO NOTHING YOU WILL GET THE SAME OLD SHIT.

07-14-2012, 01:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
HOT TUBES 70 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Saskatoon , Canada Posts: 8,798	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD If your looking to keep things on the cheap side .... These sound pretty damn good for what they are !!! You all laugh , but i reboxed one of these and people were very impressed with its tone !! ( My reboxed unit below ) Georgiatec and Marshall & Moonshine like this. __________________ Custom pedals Pedal modifications

07-14-2012, 02:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
Georgiatec Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Macclesfield, UK Posts: 2,065	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Does exactly what it says on the tin __________________ JCM2000 DSL100 & 401 COMBO VINTAGE MODERN 2466 & 425A CAB 2061x JCM1H 1960B CAB MARSHALL 412, 1922 & 1912 CABS 1978 PEAVEY CLASSIC 212 COMBO '04 GIBSON LES PAUL CLASSIC '12 GIBSON LES PAUL TRADITIONAL STD PREMIUM '00 USA STANDARD TELECASTER FENDER MODERN PLAYER TELE+ '94 FENDER MIJ '62 RI FOTOFLAME STRATOCASTER EPIPHONE LP std+ (498T & 490R), VINTAGE VS6 (SG) & SA535 (335) COPIES. IF YOU CHANGE SHIT, THEN SHIT WILL CHANGE. IF YOU DO NOTHING YOU WILL GET THE SAME OLD SHIT.

07-14-2012, 04:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
RazorDave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,011	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Mate, the MXR Micro Amp is super clean, doesnt affect your amps tone and will increase your gain like a mofo, BUT, it doesnt tighten your riffs like the 808 does. Im suprised you feel the 808 cuts low end? I dont hear that on mine at all, what I do hear is a slight increase in mids, that can sometimes cover up some of the lows, but they are still there. Anyway, Look into the Micro Amp. The boosta grande aint half bad either.

07-14-2012, 04:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
RazorDave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,011	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD I really want an Onfloor SD1 bad, money is just always tight for me these days.

07-14-2012, 05:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
rokcabilly Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 502	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Maybe you are looking for a clean boost? I tried modded and stock SD-1's, the FD-2 was nice, but I'm in LOVE with my Xotic EP boost. It's like the preamp of an old echo plex in a tiny 1 knob pedal. It has a couple of dip switches inside to adjust bass and treble to taste. Check your local Guitar Center. I bought 1 to test it for a night of rehearsal, and I figured I would return it to GC the next day(30 Day money back guarantee). Well, it's still on my board, on all the time, and I can't live without it! Seriously, give it a try, I think you'll be stoked. I have an MKIII, which gets extra gain from a diode clipping knob, and I use the EP booster rather than engaging that knob at all. http://http://www.xotic.us/effects/ep_booster/ __________________ Marshall JCM900 MKIII 2500 1960A Cab: Celestion Greenbacks Monte Allums GE-7+ TC Electronics Polytune

07-15-2012, 01:01 PM	#16 (permalink)
ReiGnMaN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Posts: 452	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Just a thought...... I can't run any overdrives in front of my Lee Jackson modded 2204 without feeling the same as you.. MY solution came in the shape of a blue MXR 10 band eq.. However, once that shit the bed, I purchased a biyang 10 band eq (footswitchable on off / True Bypass / clean boost ) and voila..... Solo boost, "pinchies" etc when needed might be worth looking into. __________________ 1987X Modified by David Bray EL34\|1984 Jcm800 2204 modified by Lee Jackson 6550 \| 1981 Jcm 800 2203 Modified 6550 \| jcm 800 2203KK Kt88 \| 1982 JCM 800 2203 Heavily modified by *Jose Arredondo* \| 1981 JCM 800 2203 6550's Modified by Karl Sandoval \| 1981 Marshall jcm800 2204 6550's Modified by Lee Jackson x2 1960AC Cabinets \| 2x JCM800 Lead cab with g12-65's \| Kramer Guitars \| Gibson Guitars "I have a fever, and the only prescription is more Marshall" www.RobGodek.com

07-15-2012, 07:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
Marshallmaniac Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Territory, Australia Posts: 1,152	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD My stock Boss SD-1 is very transparent. It really seems to only add gain and maybe a very slight mid boost. I personally didn't like when I modded it and prefer stock. blues_n_cues likes this.

07-16-2012, 07:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
wolverine1190 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 9	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Ok so here's the two plots, one without the 808 on the left, and with the 808 on the right. I tried to line up the DB markers on each plots scales so it's easier to analyze. You'll notice that there is a boost to the mids, especially around 700 Hz and more in the upper mids between 1 KHz and 2.5 KHz. You'll also notice, though, that the big bass "hump" from about 300 Hz down is much lower db wise with the 808 on than with it off. ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting If you click this link (^^^) and then click the photo, it will zoom in. Not sure if seeing this helps explain things, not that you all didn't understand already, but at least they are fun to look at (or at least, I think so haha)

07-18-2012, 12:09 PM	#22 (permalink)
zenfly Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: CoCoa Bch Fl Posts: 994	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD I always run stereo with a clean Dr.Z and my OD/Distortion through my JTM45.. Hendrix was running Marshall's when I saw him and a Fender twin at the same time regardless of what you've read.. I was there through all this history from the 50s and forward and as far as I'm concerened he kicked the door down for all this that happened later.. Clapton / Page and all those guys were stunned by him.. If you happen to have 2 amps try it sometime.. Georgiatec likes this. __________________ Marshall JTM45 Mk2/GEC KT66 Mojotone JTM45/Siemens NOS el34, Marshall Mosfet 100 / 1965a Marshall MG15dfx, Marshall 2045 1973 Creamback Fender 59 5f1 Champ, Fender 57 5e3 Deluxe, Fender 63 Vibroverb, Fender 67 Super Rev Fender 91 Vibroking. Dr.Z Maz18 too many guitars.. Jim Marshall 1923-2012 "Leo" Fender 1909 – 1991

07-18-2012, 08:45 PM	#23 (permalink)
RussBert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: connecticut Posts: 373	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Tim or Timmy. They are the shizzle for Marshall's

07-18-2012, 09:17 PM	#24 (permalink)
DPTONE5 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,956	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD After trying a ton of OD pedals, I think the Fulltone Fulldrive II Mosfet is very transparent and provides just the right amount of kick. Adrian R likes this. __________________ Marshall Amps - 1987XL, JMP 2204, JCM 800 2203X, 2555 Jubilee, JCM 800 2210, 6100 Cabinets - 1960BX, 1960B JCM 900 Guitars - PRS CU 24, 91' Gibson LP Classic, Fender Clapton Strat, Jackson SL-1, Taylor 410-CE, Fender Highway One P Bass Pedal Board - Boss Tuner, Fulltone Fulldrive II Mosfet, ReIssue Ibanez TS-808, Ernie Ball Volume Pedal to amp in. Loop - Boss Chorus, MXR Carbon Copy, Lee Jackson Mr. Springgy, Boss GE-7 EQ (Monte Allums Mod)

07-19-2012, 10:54 AM	#26 (permalink)
Rockerduck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 250	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD Try the Xotic BB preamp. Most transparent I've played. I took my SD-1 and TS-808 off my board because it sounds better than both.

07-19-2012, 03:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
Fe911 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Denver Posts: 142	Re: Need a "Transparent" OD I've been going through overdrive pedals lately to find a good one. I've found that some work really well on some amps, and so-so on others. The full drive 2 works really well on my jtm 45. But not as good on my 2204, 2203, or class 5. But it still sounds really good. The sd-1. Is a pretty good pedal for all amps, but it definitely has a flavor to it that colors the tone. The same with my ts-9, good pedal, but it has it's own sound. Instant SRV. Ive got a Tim. It's number one. I've heard people say transparent before, and never really experienced anything like it. That was really impressive to me. Plus getting used to the backwards tone controls took a little while. And I think the best part is that it has it's own loop when the pedal is engaged. And I can move it from amp to amp, and there is no let down. You can find them used. I bought mine for 180 shipped off of the gear page. Definitely worth it! Last edited by Fe911; 07-19-2012 at 03:06 PM. Reason: Spelling

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