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Unread 02-29-2012, 11:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Oh yeah, easily. Those were times where all the drugs started, and I fon't see the reason for which they shouldn't be partying heavily back in the day.
What I opposed frequently was the idea that Ang would be taking drugs to play as he did, which has often been commin place.
You don't play well under drugs effect.

But the partying style... Heck yeah
Wow, apparently I'm pretty naive w/respect to Angus. I had always known (from rumor, of course) that Malcolm was a bit of a heavy drinker, and that Angus was not (and was, as is my understanding, concerned about Malcolm at times) ... I suppose I just wrongly assumed that Angus lived a pretty clean life w/respect to chemicals (obviously a smoker, but I'm not counting that). Also, he just never gave off any of the characteristics of someone using cocaine ... hmmm, color me surprised!
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Unread 02-29-2012, 12:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Based on every TV interview I have seen w/ Angus or the rest of AC/DC, I would imagine the only FX/tone shaping Young utilizes would be the nicotine stains on his fingers.
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I would take any story like that about Angus...or anyone else famous...with a grain of salt. Or a grain of another white powder if you like...

I've heard more bullshit stories about cocaine use from the 80's that are completely fabricated than any other era.
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oh c'mon poe, those guys partied hard. they all did, not just ac/dc.

yeah, angus supposedly didnt drink, overdid it on some jack daniels and that was it for him. but bon was a full blown pill popping drunk, malcolm's famous quote something to the effect that playing lead guitar interfered with his drinking haha...the jack, was about some groupie that got passed around between the band, and gave them all the clap. they were living like rockstars.

i dont doubt for a second angus was snorting lines behind the backline during momentary breaks.

joe walsh and don felder used to have the roadies lay out train tracks for them behind the backline in between songs. henley would lay em out right on one of his floor toms haha...

cocaine was everywhere in the 70's and 80's. and with the kind of energy angus burned up during a performance, i dont doubt it for a second. bon liked speed, probably turned angus onto it...anyway, just stuff ive read along the way...
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i heard a story from some older people in the neighbor hood back in the day, someone was able to swipe angus' jacket at some point, and this girl was with him at the show. they found a huge bag of coke in the pocket haha....surprised? nah...not at all.

just a story, i never actually saw the jacket...or the drugs. he was my hero too, for years.
not suprised scat,if he wasn't wired he must have been a triathelete.he sure kept his playing skills though......superhuman,in that show they had the cannons in the ceiling for those about to rock.the 80's were so great,but i'm glad i'm where i'm at now..
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not suprised scat,if he wasn't wired he must have been a triathelete.he sure kept his playing skills though......superhuman,in that show they had the cannons in the ceiling for those about to rock.the 80's were so great,but i'm glad i'm where i'm at now..
Was the best concert I ever seen man!!!

As for the drugs >>> Angus just never missed a note! I'm not gonna speculate either cause I just dont know and to be honest who cares?
Unless you racked up lines with him how could you be sure?

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Yeah I think when playing he was always sober in all ways. He's one who saves energies for this.
He's naturally high when playing, I grew up studying him - literally - and after years I am able to feel (I presume) similar things. AC/DC's music is so energetic (older songs specifically) that they both require sober energy to play AND make you high, naturally high.

I don't drink nor do drugs either. I smoke lots of cigarettes though :P
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Yes.......the natural reverberation found in 1000s of stadiums worldwide.
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Was the best concert I ever seen man!!!

As for the drugs >>> Angus just never missed a note! I'm not gonna speculate either cause I just dont know and to be honest who cares?
Unless you racked up lines with him how could you be sure?

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i never claimed to know anything for sure, but cmon....haha, i thinks maybe some of you guys are being a little naive... that whole schoolboy image has got you fooled............who here says they are impervious to marketing???? hahaha


whatever, it doesnt matter....just popped into my head as i was reading along.
and seriously, no offense to anyone.
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i never claimed to know anything for sure, but cmon....haha, i thinks maybe some of you guys are being a little naive... that whole schoolboy image has got you fooled............who here says they are impervious to marketing???? hahaha


whatever, it doesnt matter....just popped into my head as i was reading along.
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Oh no no offense absolutely.
The truth would never offend me, and if it was true that he partied, it wouldn't touch me.

I say again, the only thing that I will always "defend" is that he wasn't the way he was on stage because of ANYTHING.... but tea.

And his own little, big artist-persona that he was, is and always will be to me
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But anyway, back to the Schaffer-Vega Diversity System:



You can see the cream colored Transmitter up there, the X10.
The box is instead the EX63 Receiver.
The black knob on the X10 sets the "sensitivity" of the compressor to the guitar signal (the more signal, the more compression).
Below, on the EX63, you will notice an output and a "Monitor" volume.
It is precisely what Angus referred as a monitor "switch" that acts in fact, as a clean boost. You can open it all up and the Monitor internal signal amplifier (powerful one, powered by power supply) will clean-boost the amp.

The more compression sensitivity there is, and the more the boost (suppose they both are fully open) it will boost the shit out of any guitar amp.

In fact, Angus said "you can give a guitar hell with it", literally.

When asked "what effects do you use", he was honest (talking I think back in 1984) and straight: "I only use a Schaffer-Vega" he said.

The effect of the compression on the guitar literally "fattens" up the sound. Very useful on the SG, that would tend to have a harsh, thin sound.
A perfect example is the Back in Black solo, that greatly represents the SVDS put to good use (there are other excellent examples, all over Back in Black (the album) and For Those About To Rock (the whole album).

To finish off, Angus received his SVDS system by Mr. Ken Schaffer in person, in July/August 1977.

Since then, he used it everywhere, live or studio.

It was proved he used it in the following studio and live recordings:

- Powerage
- If You Want Blood, You've Got It (live album)
- HighWay To Hell
- Back in Black
- For Those About To Rock

and a few more (I usually stop here, since this is the time period that really counts for me).

In the studio, it seems that he mostly used it for solos (and every studio solo from Powerage onward, was played with a SVDS!). I have some audible evidence that he also used in some studio parts for rhythm.

Live he used it always. All-ways!

Best "effect" I ever had. I can't put it down.

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sounds cool...
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i never claimed to know anything for sure, but cmon....haha, i thinks maybe some of you guys are being a little naive... that whole schoolboy image has got you fooled............who here says they are impervious to marketing???? hahaha


whatever, it doesnt matter....just popped into my head as i was reading along.
and seriously, no offense to anyone.

I'm not saying he was a choirboy...man, I was touring in that era...I'm just saying crazy stories like that are rampant. He'd leave his most important clothing for his stage image anywhere for someone to grab...and he would have a big bag of coke in it? C'mon...doesn't make sense at all. That is a piece of equipment and would be looked after just like his SG's and Marshalls. Yeah he might have been doing lines backstage after the show, like a zillion other people at that time...but the story just doesn't make sense.

But we can all agree that his sound was, and is fantastic!
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Dallas,thanks for the super detailed info.I've always wondered about this,now in the computer age we can have the srtaight dope.(corny pun) You have with out a doubt done massive studies on this sub.Great,Great info here.
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It is a such a pleasure to share....
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Never ever met him.
I am being told he knows about me. They (AC/DC) know me.
Mr. Rick St. Pierre (AC/DC amp tech) knows me well
Mr. Tony Platt (AC/DC sound engineer for a while) knows me to some extent, we also met recently in London.
I never tried to get in touch with them. Never ever but recently, and recent contact has been with record label only, trying to pay for the copyrights of the video I am making recently.

Would love to strike a deal with them, where I PAY for the videos I make.
Heres a story for you Dallas....

I was spending some time at a place called The Gold Coast here in Oz. I was walking along and there was angus having a coffee with some dude that I have never seen.

I had an internal debate..... Should I say hello, should I get and autograph...... But he seemed to be in a private conversation and the last thing he would want would be a 40 year old fan annoying him. So I just let it go. Got a coffee watched for a while.

The whole time no one even approached him. Australians are a bit like that, they will gawk but generally not intrude. It was weird seeing him as i went to the black ice tour with 100, 000 other people.

If I had my SG in the car in might have been a different story, I probably would have raced off and got it for an autograph.
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Solo, you don't sound like Angus...










He sounds like YOU!!!!
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Solo, you don't sound like Angus...


He sounds like YOU!!!!
I don't know...I think you need more practice Dallas. At 3:18 of Back in Black, the 12th lash on your left eyelid was going the opposite way of Angus's. hehe

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Woah thread kept on going, hadn't noticed.
Will reply appropriately to all of you, but first,
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Love yor stuff Dallas,you are a rock and roll scientist,you have created a beautiful monster my good doctor.love your laboratory as well
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Hahaha, thank you!
Well it's a bit mono-thematic my "study" (on the SVDS) but considering that so many bands used it... there's something for almost everyone in it!

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Hahaha, thank you!
Well it's a bit mono-thematic my "study" (on the SVDS) but considering that so many bands used it... there's something for almost everyone in it!

Thanks mate
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Any idea on the price,usa?
Not yet buddy. Produced in Germany, shipped worldwide.

There will be two versions. One even close looking to the exterior of the EX63 Receiver (Black box like that, basically identical, signed - not only by me, but by Mr. Ken Schaffer - the original inventor - in person!) and it will be in the hundreds dollars. Internal components will be analog only, an EXACT replica of the audio circuitry inside the original SVDS, minus naturally the wireless parts.

The other one will be made later on in the process, and ONLY if the first model met some market success. It will be likely SMD, way cheaper but maintaining the same sound as much as possible.



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Saw them in 79 with Bohn Scott. They opened for Journey and blew them away
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Saw them in 79 with Bohn Scott. They opened for Journey and blew them away
Wow. They were at the height of their Bon Scott era powers then. Was it a highway to hell tour? I bet that is a highlight for you.

Does not seem fair to Journey if ACDC went on first.
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I saw them here in Indy two years ago, Black Ice tour, they still lack nothing. Stage show was to die for. I have heard a rumor that Angus uses a stock JTM45 that is housed under the stage in a sound proof cabinet, not sure if that's straight skinny or not.
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Where's all the rude comments about tone sniffing etc...??? the first requirement to play AC/DC is "you've got to be tough"! 'Street tough'. NO VAI poses here! they know exactly what they were plugging into! their playing came first, their sound was second, their attitude was third, and parting (if at all) came last. Growing up in their town, you definitly knew about them and their drive and position they wanted to have in the world! they played longer and harder and did twice as many shows as anyone else, so what they did in their own time, which wasn't much other than sleeping, they have earned it! In australia the attituded is - you might 'play the songs' and act like them, but 'we' curtainly know that 'they are GODS' and 'we' are not worthy! there are lots of guys in Australia like Solodallas, but they most definitly don't pretend to have 'the sound'. 'it's like angus' spirit is playing through them'! A tribute to angus and AC/DC! Attitude Commitment Dedication and Completion!
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Where's all the rude comments about tone sniffing etc...??? the first requirement to play AC/DC is "you've got to be tough"! 'Street tough'. NO VAI poses here! they know exactly what they were plugging into! their playing came first, their sound was second, their attitude was third, and parting (if at all) came last. Growing up in their town, you definitly knew about them and their drive and position they wanted to have in the world! they played longer and harder and did twice as many shows as anyone else, so what they did in their own time, which wasn't much other than sleeping, they have earned it! In australia the attituded is - you might 'play the songs' and act like them, but 'we' curtainly know that 'they are GODS' and 'we' are not worthy! there are lots of guys in Australia like Solodallas, but they most definitly don't pretend to have 'the sound'. 'it's like angus' spirit is playing through them'! A tribute to angus and AC/DC! Attitude Commitment Dedication and Completion!
Sorry mate, I don't think I understand your post.
Are you trying to say that I "pretended" in any sort of way - for years - to have the sound? Or even affirmed I do? Because I don't recall of a single instance where this might have happened, since this is not me.

It's been a continuous strive, still is and forever will be, as it is for them.
For anyone that wants to play a certain way, it is a strive.

Please clarify.
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