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Old 01-27-2009, 07:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

just was wondering what the forum thinks of these little pedals
modded or stock , running into various amps etc. ?????

SD1
DS1
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MT2
ML2
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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SD1
DS1
OS2
DS2
MT2
ML2
Only one out of that list I like is the SD-1. Mine is made in Japan, black label with NEC 4558 chip and I changed out all the electrolytics for new ones. Made a big difference.

I'd like to get a second one to mod it with a 47nf cap accross D4. Some people say it smooths it out.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Love the beautifull sounds they make, except for the hiss....
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

The Keeley double stack SD-1 worked nicely, I have the VM now, no pedals needed. :-)
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

1+ on the MIJ SD-1
My Plexi reissue loves that pedal and I'm finding my 2266VM in likes it just as much in the low setting.
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

MIJ SD-1 is a really great pedal, but the MIT's suck IMHO, they are a lot noisier, and they lack output level, for instance:

if you plan to use your SD-1 as a booster for an already overdriven tube-amp and dont want the diodes in the pedal to clip the signal, but the tubes in your amp. Then you turn down the gain, and crank the Level, but the thing is, the output isn't enough to drive your valves into saturation.
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

have you guys had a chance to play a modded ds1 , they are a very underated pedal.
in stock trim , they are terrible at best !!!!
i call them a "orange door stop" but when the right mods are done they can sound
awsome IMO !!..
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MIJ SD-1 is a really great pedal, but the MIT's suck IMHO, they are a lot noisier, and they lack output level, for instance:

if you plan to use your SD-1 as a booster for an already overdriven tube-amp and dont want the diodes in the pedal to clip the signal, but the tubes in your amp. Then you turn down the gain, and crank the Level, but the thing is, the output isn't enough to drive your valves into saturation.
But doesn't it help the amp get closer to saturation with lower volume on the amp (sort of like an attenuator) with a boost to the preamp tubes or is it simply a different gain structure with the same volume?
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i've got MT2 modded by Moho Mods. Very cool box. They correct the mids eq section so it can be more powerful and crunchy instead of before it's very squelchy. I have an original MT2 and the first on, the Heavy Metal pedal, i've lined them up with all the same settings and the modded one crushed.
The DS1 ain't bad but Moho and Analog Man can mod these to sound much better.


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But doesn't it help the amp get closer to saturation with lower volume on the amp (sort of like an attenuator) with a boost to the preamp tubes or is it simply a different gain structure with the same volume?
i didn't quite get the question, but i'll try to explain what i meant and answer your question as i understood it.

no, it helps to play louder if you wan't more saturation. the thing with boosting the way i explained is that you can get more distortion out of your amp, it's the earliest attempts at "clean boosting". this method will be like having another channel on your amp with more gain and a tad bit more volume. depending on how hard you are pushing your amp, the difference might not be all that great.

hope that gave you the answers you where looking for.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh okay, I get what you're saying. I was thinking that if you had the amp's volume at lets say 4 without any boost and then kicked on the boost that it would simply have more power driving the preamp tubes into saturation without affecting the power tube circuit (aka without adding more volume). but I realize the error of my statement, I forgot that the desireable tube saturation that tube amp owners love comes from saturation of the POWER TUBES and not the preamp tubes. (I never can get mine loud enough to appreciate or understand what thats like)
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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yeah, it pushes the preamp into more distortion, not the power-amp, so with a slight volume boost you would also have a lot more gain.
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have you guys had a chance to play a modded ds1 , they are a very underated pedal.
in stock trim , they are terrible at best !!!!
i call them a "orange door stop" but when the right mods are done they can sound
awsome IMO !!..
I never liked the DS-1. I bought one back in the 80's. It was my 1st pedal. I kept it sooo long but never really used it. I kept it simply because it was my first pedal. One day, I just decided to sell it.
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

I've got a stock SD-1 and love it. In this context I really must add the BD-2, which is the best overdrive from Boss IMO.
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Love my SD-1...use it to drive my solos. Really love it now since some really smart dude from Canada gave me a sweet mod for it. All the difference in the world and it stacks up against my OCD. Actually don't know which one I like better now.
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and that dude was ........ ME !!!!
I'M HAPPY YOU LIKE IT !!!
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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...but don't any of you guys get the most terrible noise when you put more than one pedal in line. I am using the NS-2 noise suppressor which cuts the signal as soon as it reaches a preset level. I got myself a PB-100 now and think I'll stick the pedals on ebay!
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

has not been a problem for me , but as you add more gain you tend to hear more noise
but not out of control in any way.
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Re: Boss Distortion / Overdrive Pedals

the boss ds1 is the best distortion for the buck
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the boss ds1 is the best distortion for the buck
only when modified !!!
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...but don't any of you guys get the most terrible noise when you put more than one pedal in line. I am using the NS-2 noise suppressor which cuts the signal as soon as it reaches a preset level. I got myself a PB-100 now and think I'll stick the pedals on ebay!
If you're having a noise problem (gain pedals and some compressor, like my MXR DynaComp are notorious for that) try the ISP Decimator. I have one on the end of my chain and I love it.
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any one got a modded MT2 that rocks !!!!!!!!!
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...but don't any of you guys get the most terrible noise when you put more than one pedal in line. I am using the NS-2 noise suppressor which cuts the signal as soon as it reaches a preset level. I got myself a PB-100 now and think I'll stick the pedals on ebay!
what kind of guitar and pickups are you using? i've got a lot of gain in front of my amp and am not getting any problems.
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sounds like maybe bad cables or poor grounds etc????? just some thoughts !!
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If I could jump in here, I have an SD-1 it's a good pedal i really like it...but I find when I punch it, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (off.......) (on) SHHHHHHHHHHHH! it drives me nuts! but I like the tone I get from it...
the main problem I have is I play a lot of quick pauses and my foot is just not fast enough and I end up sounding like shit does anyone here know of any mods that can at least make the SHHHHHHHHHH! a little less?
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If I could jump in here, I have an SD-1 it's a good pedal i really like it...but I find when I punch it, SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (off.......) (on) SHHHHHHHHHHHH! it drives me nuts! but I like the tone I get from it...
the main problem I have is I play a lot of quick pauses and my foot is just not fast enough and I end up sounding like shit does anyone here know of any mods that can at least make the SHHHHHHHHHH! a little less?
get the SD1 modded , most of these problems will go away !!!
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Am I sensing a pattern here? People, get Hot Tubes to mod your pedal - right NOW!!
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get the SD1 modded , most of these problems will go away !!!
Right, but does anyone know of any mods that a simple guy like me can do..?
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Right, but does anyone know of any mods that a simple guy like me can do..?
pm me for more info on that !!!
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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now I'm really going to sound dumb....what to I have to do to "pm" you?

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