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Unread 08-07-2011, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I'm looking to place one of these suckers on my board but not sure which one. I won't pay 500 for a vintage one, so it will be a new one. Block?, script?
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Unread 08-07-2011, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Or maybe a Phase 100?....
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Unread 08-07-2011, 03:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I have the block logo one and I like it a lot. Never played a script logo one, so I can't compare.
The EHX Small Stone is also a good one, and cheap.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 03:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I got the block phase 90 here as well, the script model only runs on a 9 volt battery. At least that's how i remember it when i was looking for one.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 04:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I think I'm leaning more toward the block logo phase 100. I'm going to have to try them all out for sure. I hate going by the youtube vids.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

From all the one I've tried, I like the generic BLOCK Phase 90 best. It just has a lot of presence and authority in the sweep. What ever you do, don't go with the MODTONE ATOMIC PHASER; that thing sucks!

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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Does it also add a slight distorted tone too?
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

That's a good shootout vid. I think your right, I like the generic one too.
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I have heard the EVH is harsh sounding to a number of people, and I would avoid the block phase unless you are spending $40 or less used.

If you are "serious" about phase (not there yet myself), I would go with a CMATMODS Phase 90 script reissue, a retrosonic, or a script-modded standard phase (and there is an outfit of former MXR guys making the classics under their own name, forgot which).

If you don't give a crap, then consider the DOD Stereo Phaser/Phasor. It's not a pretty-sounding phaser, but it is very useful (esp with the stereo feature) and they are dirt cheap (mine was $15).
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Unread 08-07-2011, 09:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

The BLOCK logo Phase 90 is my current piece and so far I have yet to find anything better.
I have tried an EVH and may pick one up but frankly I am not sure the cost makes it worth it over the standard deal.

And yeah, I would pay the 70 bucks or whatever it is these days for a brand new one.
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The BLOCK logo Phase 90 is my current piece and so far I have yet to find anything better.
I have tried an EVH and may pick one up but frankly I am not sure the cost makes it worth it over the standard deal.

And yeah, I would pay the 70 bucks or whatever it is these days for a brand new one.
The question is "what have you compared it with" having decided nothing was better? I have nothing against the block logo myself, but I have heard enough comparisons to favor the script model if I end up getting a MXR.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I'm not a fan of overdone phaser.
I prefer a more subtle effect, like the solo on "We Will Rock You", or "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" or the Live After Death version of "Powerslave" (the slow modal solo).
And it MUST be in the front end of the amp.
Post-distortion phaser sounds ghey.
For all of the above, the script Phase 90 is the key.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

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The question is "what have you compared it with" having decided nothing was better? I have nothing against the block logo myself, but I have heard enough comparisons to favor the script model if I end up getting a MXR.
Fair question for sure.
Old 80's MXR phase 90
Old Boss phase
Current phase 90
Current script phase 90
Current EVH phase 90
Digitech Hardwire SP7
Digitech GNX-3000
TC Electronics G Major

All of the above have their pros and cons and for what I do with a phaser I have found the block 90 to cover my needs. Now I admit I would REALLY like to try a MoogerFooger.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

i have to agree with Papus on this. i prefer a more subtle phase effect.
not really high on my to get list either. for me the script 90 sounds better than the block 90.
not sure about the vintage. i also think they should go in front of an amp.

the Phase 100 looks more flexable. the 100 does sound more intense.
i dunno how the lesser depth settings compares to the script/block/vintage 90's.
not the best demo, he switches to a bass mid way


one thing to note is that none of the MXR Phase pedals are true bypass.
they refer to them as hardwire. if that is important to you, modding it to true bypass
shouldn't be hard. they also sell cables/converters with 9V battery ends on them.
if your handy you could put a 9V jack in.

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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Hi mate,

The Block has more mids than the Script, the Script being smoother and warmer - i kinda like both.
Dont discount the Phase 45 if you are more sublte and clean pieces, its a seductive little beast!

Upscale, the retro-sonic phaser is more open and in a way more subtle, but with higher headroom than any MXR.

More interesting: the Subdecay Quasar. Very versatile.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I bought a 100 but found it impossible to tone down. I'm now using an Eltro Harmonix Small Stone which is a lot more subtle, which is ideal for what I'm doing with my Strat and DSL.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Well for what it's worth, the only phaser I've ever had was a Mutron II. Excellent phaser. Thick, rich, controllable phaser. It's just that I don't use a phaser too much in my playing, but I do use one. It basically comes down to I can't justify the mutron taking up half of my board for something I don't use all of the time.
Probably not going to get the rich, vintage tone without using the vintage piece....
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From all the one I've tried, I like the generic BLOCK Phase 90 best. It just has a lot of presence and authority in the sweep. What ever you do, don't go with the MODTONE ATOMIC PHASER; that thing sucks!

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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

gearmandude is better than most but with all that gear he doesn't have a mic?
also he never plays chords
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Well for what it's worth, the only phaser I've ever had was a Mutron II. Excellent phaser. Thick, rich, controllable phaser. It's just that I don't use a phaser too much in my playing, but I do use one. It basically comes down to I can't justify the mutron taking up half of my board for something I don't use all of the time.
Probably not going to get the rich, vintage tone without using the vintage piece....
If you can find one to try out the MXR custom shop '74 Phase 90 since that is supposed to be the closest to the original ones.
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I have heard the EVH is harsh sounding to a number of people, and I would avoid the block phase unless you are spending $40 or less used.
I agree the EVH is very harsh. Even on low settings the phase effect is very dominating.
When playing it in a band setting - when activating this pedal - the volume dropped a tad and the pedal "drowned".
I got to check out the MXR script phase .. I prefer the option of having a mild phase effect.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Got a 90 block logo and did a simple resistor mod (lifted one leg on 1 resisitor but can't remember? I think it's called the R28? mod). Anyway, now it's a nice subtle effect and prefer it although i could re-solder the resistor if I wanted to.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I built the BYOC phaser, copy of the old MXR. It kicks ass.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

To throw another one into the mix, here is the Whirlwind Orange Box Phaser:

The "Orange Box" Phaser - Catalog - Whirlwind

These are supposedly made like the original MXR units from the 70's. Makes sense since the President of Whirlwind was one of the original founders of MXR. I have had the MXR/EVH Phase 90 for several years and with the script button pushed in it gets the job done. I think the phaser effect is still a little too wet in script mode. I have read there is a trim pot inside where this can be dialed back a bit. Also people have powered them from a Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2 in one of the sag ports and dialed back the voltage a bit to get that really light phaser sound. If you're playing funky clean stuff it's great in block mode.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Thanks for all the input guys. I purchased a phase 90 and a phase 100. I found the 100 to be totally unusable, so it went right back out. I liked the phase 90 reissue so I kept that one. So,....I figured if I liked the reissue, I might as well check out a block original so I found one and I'm just waiting for it to come.
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

Dread, the new reissue is really the EVH. If you open the case, the script switch is on the board. Funny how they sell it for a ton more with the paint and a hole for the switch. Happy tweaking!
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Re: MXR Phase 90...Which one?

I am waiting for the Custom Shop '75 Phase 45. Not a big phase guy and a lot of the guys complaining about 90s (including new scripts) seem to have replaced them with this. Most tend to associate "musicality with strength/depth of sweep. In terms of subtle warble over strong sweep, 45 < 90 script < 90 block. I'm not arguing best, since preference dictates.
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