hotplates??

johnnyg5 · 05-31-2008, 09:24 AM

can anyone tell me what a hotplate is?

5er driver · 05-31-2008, 11:32 AM

johnnyg5, read here: THD Electronics

stryker59 · 05-31-2008, 02:58 PM

its an awesome friggin peice of equipment!!!!

Adwex · 06-04-2008, 10:42 AM

The Hotplate is a type of attenuator that allows you to crank your tube amp to get "the tone", but turn the volume down. It basically absorbs some of the power going to the speakers, and converts it to heat. It's the only way to get the power tubes singing without pissing off the neighbors.

RachelMorgan · 06-09-2008, 08:12 PM

On high sound reduction it will color your tone. So don't expect it to be transparent. THD says this in their manual. This is because you aren't moving the speakers that much. You'll lose some bottom and top end. So they have switches on them to compensate, or you can compensate with a graphic EQ.

Mats A · 07-12-2008, 04:57 PM

I conpared it to a Marshall Powerbrake and I think it changes ther tone much more than a PB. I guess it´s because it´s a passive design with just resistors.

stryker59 · 07-12-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mats A

I conpared it to a Marshall Powerbrake and I think it changes ther tone much more than a PB. I guess it´s because it´s a passive design with just resistors.

you are probably the only person on the planet to say that!

Mats A · 07-14-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stryker59

you are probably the only person on the planet to say that!

But it really does. You can never get the same type as no attenuator by using a passive load. Both the PB and the HT change the tone. But turning the volume down also changes the sound neacause of the speaker getting less signal.

stryker59 · 07-14-2008, 09:01 PM

imo the PB was horrible compare to the hotplate.....and i ab'd them together, so i guess it's whatever you like best, i do know that the general concensus is that the PB isnt all that great, but if you got it to work for you then that's awesome!! personally gimme the hot plate!!

Mats A · 07-15-2008, 04:39 PM

I´d rather play without an attenuator. If I could of course.

Mats A · 07-15-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stryker59

imo the PB was horrible compare to the hotplate.....and i ab'd them together, so i guess it's whatever you like best, i do know that the general concensus is that the PB isnt all that great, but if you got it to work for you then that's awesome!! personally gimme the hot plate!!

In what ways do you think it´s horrible and not as good as the PB?

stryker59 · 07-15-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mats A

In what ways do you think it´s horrible and not as good as the PB?

nice try!

RachelMorgan · 07-19-2008, 12:35 AM

I think the Power Brake is way overpriced for what you get. If you want to spend that much money go for the Ultimate Attenuator. It's just as expensive and it's better. But with the optional features I'd get on it to accommodate a few different needs, I could almost buy 3 THD Hot Plates that would serve the needs.

Mats A · 07-24-2008, 02:18 AM

OK. What is the ultimate attenuator?

ZoomZilla · 07-24-2008, 06:37 PM

Why an attenuator with a master volume amp? I am not judging, I am seeking to understand. I had read that attenuators were great with non master volume amps, but not really needed with master volume amps. Any truth to that?

5er driver · 07-25-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZilla

Why an attenuator with a master volume amp?

Zoom - in my case, the power tubes in my SL-X don't really start working until I roll the MV up to around 4. The sweet spot is at 7. Even at 50 watts with 2 of the 4 power tubes pulled and the MV on 7 it's still too loud indoors without an attenuator.

stryker59 · 07-25-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 5er driver

Zoom - in my case, the power tubes in my SL-X don't really start working until I roll the MV up to around 4. The sweet spot is at 7. Even at 50 watts with 2 of the 4 power tubes pulled and the MV on 7 it's still too loud indoors without an attenuator.

yep....zoom, i dime my mv to get the power tubes cookin but if i didnt have the attenuator, id get blown out of the house w/ my jvm!

ZoomZilla · 07-26-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stryker59

yep....zoom, i dime my mv to get the power tubes cookin but if i didnt have the attenuator, id get blown out of the house w/ my jvm!

You get your pickups yet?

st.bede · 07-26-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelMorgan

On high sound reduction it will color your tone. So don't expect it to be transparent. THD says this in their manual. This is because you aren't moving the speakers that much. You'll lose some bottom and top end. So they have switches on them to compensate, or you can compensate with a graphic EQ.

I have one and I have found that to be very true....so I tend to avoid doing any recording with it but, use it for jamming...

RachelMorgan · 08-01-2008, 07:50 PM

Most of the time for recording it looks like we'll be using a 15w amp at most, or going straight into a board and using an amp/cab model.

stryker59 · 08-04-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZilla

You get your pickups yet?

they are on the way as we speak! with the fires and will movin his shop, they got behind but laura told me they are on the way! cant wait!!

ZoomZilla · 08-05-2008, 06:46 PM

Give us a review when you get them! Post it in MLP if you want.

stryker59 · 08-05-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZilla

Give us a review when you get them! Post it in MLP if you want.

you got it!!

st.bede · 08-05-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelMorgan

Most of the time for recording it looks like we'll be using a 15w amp at most, or going straight into a board and using an amp/cab model.

yhea...those low watt amps are the bomb for recording....(15watt is still pretty loud...you will proably think I am crazy)....the good thing is you can really push them with out the need for a great room.

DragonSarc · 08-14-2008, 05:26 AM

Ive checked some of the THDs and theres different ohms which one should i get? 16 or 6? im will be using it on my JCM 900 4100 and TSL 100 and is the THD the best one out there how is it compared to others?

stryker59 · 08-14-2008, 08:53 PM

if you are using one 16 ohm cab then get the 16 ohm hotplate....if your running two 16 ohm cabs then get the 8 ohm hotplate.
there is no 6 ohm hotplate...

DragonSarc · 08-15-2008, 07:33 AM

thanks stryker - yeah i meant 8 not 6

so what happens if i use 16 on 8? will it mess the amp or the hotplate?

Adwex · 08-15-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonSarc

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so what happens if i use 16 on 8? will it mess the amp or the hotplate?

The amp.

Don't do it.

Always match impedance.

DragonSarc · 08-19-2008, 07:22 AM

check this out
Tube Amp VOLUME BOX for MARSHALL JCM 900 800 2000 DSL - eBay (item 140258424581 end time Aug-24-08 23:43:37 PDT)

any good? not bad for the price.

stryker59 · 08-19-2008, 08:20 AM

i would be hesitant to try it...basically just another volume control on the amp imo.
i have heard good things about these tubecubes and they arent as expensive as the hotplates..i personally dont have any experience w/ them.
Tubecube Amp Attenuator 160watt 2output, 8ohm 16ohm - eBay (item 260275869717 end time Aug-23-08 14:37:39 PDT)

05-31-2008, 09:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
johnnyg5 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	hotplates?? can anyone tell me what a hotplate is?

05-31-2008, 11:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
5er driver Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 47	Re: hotplates?? johnnyg5, read here: THD Electronics __________________ The 5er Driver

05-31-2008, 02:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: staunton, va Posts: 502	Re: hotplates?? its an awesome friggin peice of equipment!!!! __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*

06-04-2008, 10:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Adwex Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 562	Re: hotplates?? The Hotplate is a type of attenuator that allows you to crank your tube amp to get "the tone", but turn the volume down. It basically absorbs some of the power going to the speakers, and converts it to heat. It's the only way to get the power tubes singing without pissing off the neighbors. __________________ Band Websites: http://www.loudrocker.com/ http://www.myspace.com/rockerlivemusic

06-09-2008, 08:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 101	Re: hotplates?? On high sound reduction it will color your tone. So don't expect it to be transparent. THD says this in their manual. This is because you aren't moving the speakers that much. You'll lose some bottom and top end. So they have switches on them to compensate, or you can compensate with a graphic EQ.

07-12-2008, 04:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mats A Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	Re: hotplates?? I conpared it to a Marshall Powerbrake and I think it changes ther tone much more than a PB. I guess it´s because it´s a passive design with just resistors.

07-14-2008, 09:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: staunton, va Posts: 502	Re: hotplates?? imo the PB was horrible compare to the hotplate.....and i ab'd them together, so i guess it's whatever you like best, i do know that the general concensus is that the PB isnt all that great, but if you got it to work for you then that's awesome!! personally gimme the hot plate!! __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*

07-15-2008, 04:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mats A Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	Re: hotplates?? I´d rather play without an attenuator. If I could of course.

07-19-2008, 12:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 101	Re: hotplates?? I think the Power Brake is way overpriced for what you get. If you want to spend that much money go for the Ultimate Attenuator. It's just as expensive and it's better. But with the optional features I'd get on it to accommodate a few different needs, I could almost buy 3 THD Hot Plates that would serve the needs.

07-24-2008, 02:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mats A Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 12	Re: hotplates?? OK. What is the ultimate attenuator?

07-24-2008, 06:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
ZoomZilla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 134	Re: hotplates?? Why an attenuator with a master volume amp? I am not judging, I am seeking to understand. I had read that attenuators were great with non master volume amps, but not really needed with master volume amps. Any truth to that?

08-01-2008, 07:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 101	Re: hotplates?? Most of the time for recording it looks like we'll be using a 15w amp at most, or going straight into a board and using an amp/cab model. __________________ Guitars: Gibson SG Standard; Schecter C-1 Hellraiser (JB/'59 w/ coil tap); Gibson Les Paul Studio Amps: Marshall JVM 410H; Peavey 6505+; Fender HR Deville. Speakers: Avatar Contemporary 212s #1: Greenbacks; #2: Vintage 30s

08-05-2008, 06:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
ZoomZilla Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 134	Re: hotplates?? Give us a review when you get them! Post it in MLP if you want.

08-14-2008, 05:26 AM	#25 (permalink)
DragonSarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Leandro, CA Posts: 116	Re: hotplates?? Ive checked some of the THDs and theres different ohms which one should i get? 16 or 6? im will be using it on my JCM 900 4100 and TSL 100 and is the THD the best one out there how is it compared to others?

08-14-2008, 08:53 PM	#26 (permalink)
stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: staunton, va Posts: 502	Re: hotplates?? if you are using one 16 ohm cab then get the 16 ohm hotplate....if your running two 16 ohm cabs then get the 8 ohm hotplate. there is no 6 ohm hotplate... __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*

08-15-2008, 07:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
DragonSarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Leandro, CA Posts: 116	Re: hotplates?? thanks stryker - yeah i meant 8 not 6 so what happens if i use 16 on 8? will it mess the amp or the hotplate?

08-19-2008, 07:22 AM	#29 (permalink)
DragonSarc Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Leandro, CA Posts: 116	Re: hotplates?? check this out Tube Amp VOLUME BOX for MARSHALL JCM 900 800 2000 DSL - eBay (item 140258424581 end time Aug-24-08 23:43:37 PDT) any good? not bad for the price.

08-19-2008, 08:20 AM	#30 (permalink)
stryker59 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: staunton, va Posts: 502	Re: hotplates?? i would be hesitant to try it...basically just another volume control on the amp imo. i have heard good things about these tubecubes and they arent as expensive as the hotplates..i personally dont have any experience w/ them. Tubecube Amp Attenuator 160watt 2output, 8ohm 16ohm - eBay (item 260275869717 end time Aug-23-08 14:37:39 PDT) __________________ *you've been weighed, measured, and found wanting!*