who really invented Heavy Metal

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  1. Gunner64

    Gunner64 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Yes he could. I practically lived in f#$king cornfield county so hee haw was always on..tractors are heavy metal I guess..
     
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    the blonde twins were hot.
     
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    jimmy page visited heavy metal, but he didn't invent it.
    its like jerking off and not being able to finish.
    they called all those early cats heavy metal, ritchmore ec, but that's just pussy talk.
    the people who coined those acts heavy metal have never been near a welder in their lives, just sensitive little jemima's and sophie got a boo boo.
    Dimebag was the first to make people fear something.

    see I cant even spell it, blackmore.
     
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    Sorry to hear that
     
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    It was Heavy Metal that took off the tips of his fingers....So, It has got to be Tony Iommi and Sabbath.
    Judas Priest certainly did there share to inspire other genres of metal but Black Sabbath gets the win for me.
     
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    No.

    In the 60's the term started being thrown around, then in the 70's it referred to purple, zepplin, sabbath and a lot of others no one remembers (hawkwind etc).

    Then in the late 70's it got redefined to only sabbath clones. Everything else got reclassified as hard rock. Total BS.

    Fear something? seriously ? I am not in the habit of knocking other people's music tastes but "metal" is so limited it's pathetic, and on top of that they give it another sub genre every time someone changes key, tempo or scale. I don't hate metal and if you love it more power to you, but if you go around bagging out other music styles you're asking for it. Especially when you are trying to rewrite history. Hendrix was scarier than anything since when he was in that mood...listen to some of his lesser known stuff.
     
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    First time I heard the term "heavy metal", it was attributed to Sabbath, Zeppelin and Deep Purple, as my aunt and uncle excribed it to me in the kitchen.
     
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    I still have to go with Black Sabbath, I haven’t been the same since..
     
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    Anyone remember this:

    2144777-001[1].jpg

    I don't think they can get the credit. Issue 1 was April '77.
    But interesting none the less.
    And somewhat reminiscent of the original Appetite For Destruction sleeve!
     
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    if youre referring to what i typed out guzzi, read what i wrote again, bagging out music didnt happen, it was the people that labelled the music that I labelled pussies, idiot music reviewers or tv presenters worried about their daughters getting raped.
    blackmore iommi zepp, theyre all cool, theyre legit, they're strong.
    Hendrix was a bit like page, a bit dreamy. Angry, but not heavy metal, I liken heavy metal to a sword, not that gets waved around, but one that cuts, kills.
    Dimebag was the original slasher.
     
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    page came the closest to heavy metal, kashmir has a dimebageasque swing to it, its heavy, but layered with all that floaty pyramids romance.
    Dimebag wasn't romantic, he was a musical assassin, a hit man. VDOP is as scary now as when I first heard it.
    I love kashmir btw, I worship jimmy page.
    page was a technician, very clever, very dynamic, i love the intro to ramble on, it's harder than it sounds to play, it's actually quite difficult to get the dynamic right.
     
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    "I like smoke and lightning, Heavy Metal thunder" June 1968, Steppenwolf.
    Heavy Metal magazine was the English Language version of the French publication Metal Hurlant.
    I'm pretty sure it was arrived at via the term Heavy Rock, like Led Zeppelin and the association with Lead being a heavy metal. :shrug:
     
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    I would counter the Dimebag argument with Rikk Agnew.
    His playing and writing on the first Christian Death album: Only Theatre Of Pain, in 1982 still gives me the creeps (lovely)!
    Not Heavy Metal as such, but the first Death Rock band, certainly.
    Influences like this started to bleed into Metal and gave us some of the Metal genres we have today.

    This is a reworking of the 1st track from 1981 (The album was recorded in '81 too).

     
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    yeah that guitar player is killer, that's interesting music, it's new-wave but minus the synth

    its like the guitar version of The Cure.
     
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    It's like someone's asked Andy Summers to play creepy distorted guitar under the whole track
     
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    that yardbirds clip " the train kept a rolling", is from a great film and I always remembered that clip in particular , that was soon to be just jimmy page , and then led zeppelin , and I always thought playing around with that riff , is where jimmy page came up with "the wanton song" , and if you want heavy its right there , with that beautiful soulful middle section - that is very typical of jimmy page , his riffs , and ryhym sections are so different to typical riffs
     
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    I have managed to work it all out, and it is 30-40% open harmonics.
     
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    Heavy Metal is a phrase but it describe what the music is in the genre. Zep was trying to be a blues rock band but with lots of guitar and hard heavy drums. The music evolved from blues rock and I think a desire for the guitarist to show what he can do. It was kind of angry and was less radio friendly in the beginning . Even some local stations never played Megadeth until recently.

    Sabbath did create some of what is defining heavy with drop tuning and the style of stoner sub genre.

    Metal is guitar and focused on guitar, once Priest hit it evolved to dual guitar leads. Every good heavy band had a good drummer .

    Deep Purple is in there. Oh and I do remember Hawkwind , not much about their music but it was more progressive.
     
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    Howlin Wolf ......who the fck else ???
     

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