who really invented Heavy Metal

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  1. ricksdisconnected

    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    Progressive hard rock became what we call Heavy Metal

    Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, MC5, 13th Floor Elevators etc... its all good
     
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    Some would say The Kinks!
    August 4th 1964.

     
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    IMO Tony Iommi is, was ,and always will be the riffmiester general of Heavy Metal. The Godfather, The Grand Poohbah,The Big Cheese. The Man. Call him what you want....There may have been attempts before him, but he perfected it. That Sabbath stuff is timeless.
     
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    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

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    I would say that the Kinks & the Who were the roots of...

    Punk
     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    i can see that.
     
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    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

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    of course, people link Paranoid (the song) w/ being early roots, because it's simple chugging of chords, but, if you listen to Vol. 4, it's a heavy doom metal album in '72...

    Masters of Reality had a couple metal classics in '71... It was way ahead of it's time.

    There were a few drummers from the era, that had metal mindedness, but, the bands weren't so metal. I think Bonham was a big influence, as well as Appice (Vinny), Bev Bevan & even Cozy Powell.

    In studio production, intensity was always held back, in drums & guitar. Even vocals they weren't to cut loose. That was for the live improv, but things changed in the '80s, when live became more of a do it by the book ordeal. Then as time went on, everybody is letting loose on their recordings (for good or bad), so, when they perform live, usually, they are trying to replicate the high mark set in the studio, to fall short...
     
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    Jethro Tull for sure. Just ask Metallica!! Lol! Something about yoga pants and flute playing is heavy metal...
     
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    Yes, Iommi played with Jethro Tull.
     
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    I tend to agree that Black Sabbath is the pinnacle of early metal. One of my all time favorite bands. I agree that the music is timeless.
    There has been a very convincing argument that Blue Cheer in their early days was the format for heavy metal. Definitely a band that was way ahead of their time in attitude, approach to music. Do they have all the necessary
    elements of the heavy metal genre or are they just another heavy electric blues band? Hmmm:hmm:
     
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    Had you lived in England during the late 60's early 70's you would have heard many bands doing 'Hard Rock" which was the precursor to Heavy metal..
    I suppose America only got that which made it over the ocean, but we were rocking out to Cream, Zepplin, The Who, Mahogany Rush and many others way before you got them here and many that never made it over too....
     
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    Ozzy / Iommi
    MC5
    Iron Butterfly
    Bubble Puppy
    Blue Cheer
    But at the time, nobody called it "heavy metal," and it did branch out of something called "psychedelic music."
     
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    Sabbath period
     
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    I do know It wasn't this guy. Jones_Grandpa.jpg
     
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    These guys :
     
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    Mars Bonfire invented heavy metal (thunder) in 1968.
     
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    didn't james brown claim that, or was it just everything other genre?
     
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    Dimebag.
     
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    How about the Yard Birds?

     
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    ricksdisconnected Well-Known Member

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    no but grandpa could sure has hell roll on that banjo like a bat out of hell though.
     
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