What is the point of owning 25+ watt amps?

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  1. Minor

    Minor New Member

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    Good tone (and the famous tone of many guitarists) comes from cranking the amp all the way to Volume 10. A 25 watt amp or higher will cause your walls to shake if you were to play/record on Volume 10. Most of us don't have the opportunity to play in a stadium where those volumes are suitable, nor have the desire to play it in a soundproof room because we like our hearing the way it is, so why own amps like that?

    The YJM may be an exception, but the YJM isn't the entire Marshall collection is it?
     
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    Dogs of Doom Moderator Staff Member

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    you're not SlashTroll are you?
     
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    SonVolt Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Because a lot of us think power tube distortion sounds like muddy shit and prefer the clean tight break-up of preamp tubes through a hi-fi power section.
     
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    Because I can.
     
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    wouldn't that lean you toward a ss power section?

    i prefer the muddy shit by far. always have. to me, what's the point of a tube power section unless you're going to push or clip it?

    good thread, really. i'm in the less-than camp for sure for the most part. i never bring out the big boys anymore.
     
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    jvm210guy New Member

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    What's the point of this thread??

    If you wanna rock a monster 100watt rig, and lug a 4x12 around more power to you. When I was younger I did it every weekend.

    Now I play small amps, but I don't have to tell others how to handle their business.
     
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    Point? What's wrong with shaking walls?
     
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  8. Minor

    Minor New Member

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    Hearing damage? Police knocking on your door?
     
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    Attenuator solves that problem for the most part.

    Plus, name some low wattage amps that are suitable for home use that sound like a Plexi? With the exception for the JMP1, I don't think you will find many that can produce that magical sound that a Marshall plexi can. Even still, a JMP1 is loud in 1 watt mode. I've got a JCM1C and it is pretty freaking loud with the master on 10.

    Even if there was a 10 watt amp that sounded exactly like a Plexi, it would still be too loud. My YJM is too loud when set to 6 watts. Hell I even find 1-2 watts too loud, unless I'm in a large room.

    To answer your question about why do we need 100 watt amps? Well, I'll put it to you like this, I think my YJM sounds better in 100 watt mode compared to 50 watt mode and I know a few other YJM owners will say the same. It sounds clearer, crisper and more aggressive. The 50W mode sounds a little more compressed and a bit less punchy. Not a night and day difference, but enough for me to prefer 100W mode over 50W mode. Plus my guitars clean up a lot nicer in 100W mode.
     
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    Yes, power to you when the cops knock on your door and you get hearing damage
     
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    because some times people need sheer CLEAN volume. it really comes down to how much air the amp is pushing. Sometimes we need that extra push over the cliff......
     
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    Okay fair enough, 100W sounds good, I believe you. There is no way however a 100W will sound truly good at 0.5 volume though, which is likely what its going to need to be on.
     
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    Aesthetics, ego, and because I can.

    I play a 2466 and I think it is one of the best looking amps Marshall made. Personal opinion of course, but for me the simple faceplate is worthy of framing.

    I have a half stack because as a teen the guys I idolized had a head on top of 2 cabs to create a wall of "F-you I'm playing here". It's as intimidating as it is gorgeous. Couple decades later, I just wanted my little chance at that.

    Last point, I want it so I have it. Is it practical, no. Is it fun to look at and even more fun to crank when my GF and Son are out...hell

    The look, feel and sound of a full size head is just part of the attraction for me.
     
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    Earplugs, iso boxes, and concrete walls. My cranked DSL100 can't be heard 20 feet from my house, and that's without earplugs or an iso box.
     
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    Cops troubling you? Crank it right up and deafen the shit out of them :shred2:

    As for hearing loss, most people lose their hearing as they get older. I'm 18 and I'm pretty much half deaf in my right ear. That started well before I got a 100W amp. I even sit with my left ear facing my amp. Who knows, maybe my Marshall just improved my hearing :hmm:
     
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    I've never had that issue, police or hearing damage. Is that your only argument?
     
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    Clean tube headroom.
     
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    My vintage modern used to sound good on 0.1 and 10. It was every bit as good on 0.1 as it was on 10.

    My 2204 is the same, minus a little bass when turned down, but thats what te bass knob is for.
     
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    +1

    Why own a Ferrari when you can't drive faster than a Prius? Jeffro
     
  20. Minor

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    Crank up a 100 watt amp to 10 in a quiet suburban area and then let me know
     

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