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Discussion in 'The Cellar' started by axe4me, Apr 29, 2019.
Dave was a pretty darn unique character to wind up frontin a hard rock band. Part Jim Dandy ,part PT Barnum
And while EVH was an interesting innovator on guitar, that "wheedelee" guitar playing shit never meant anything to me .
BUT I can't stress enough,EVH's influence on me personally as a guitar tinker . He wrote a new set of rules for that too ......NONE ! No rules , just go after the vision you have in your head
I think my guitar association/career would not have been half as gratifying ,without his inspiration in that direction, and me following
I would be where i am today with or without EVH but the first album did blow my mind.
Ed's contribution is noted but he does soak the whole mystique of his reputation for everything its worth past the point of practicality.
I have never liked or used/bought any of his endorsements.
I liked the song Jump.
That was about it for me and Van Halen.
I was born 8 months after the release of Van Halen's first album, so I wasn't around for the experience first hand. Hated them as a teen in the '90s, but now I'm older and less snobby (narrow-minded) and I'm starting to dig them.
My first decent guitar was a Fender Lead II. They are hardtails. I was influenced to tinker as well from VH.
I put a DiMarzio Dual Sound Humbucker in the bridge. I liked it that way.
Next I get the idea to route it out and put in a Floyd Rose and strip of the finish and repaint it.
Needless to say the guitar never sounded the same after all that. The only thing I miss is the DiMarzio.
I grew up in Southern California, La Puente/ West Covina area and Van Halen was one of the bands that played a shit ton of backyard parties everywhere, plus I had seen them at this dive bar in Pomona, Walter Mittys this was the mid 70’s then about 77 or so we didn’t hear of them much, but then in 78 that first album came out! The rest is history, I was more a Randy Rhoads fan! Cheers Mitch
EVH had some great tone ,especially the 1st 4 records ....and Im talkin bout the RIFFS ,not all the tappin shredder shit. He had some killer riffs was a great rhythm player ....very different within the hard rock realm of the day .
I was in the same area as Mitch back then ,just a couple years behind. I was maybe a freshman in HS when the 1st record came out .It was a pretty big buzz...everybody knew a guy who knew a guy who knew Van Halen
I saw Quiet Riot back then ...77'78. I thought the singer sucked ,but I liked the guitar player because he reminded me of RONSON .....Who TF is Van Halen ???
I listened to that whole interview ....interesting . A lotta ego and insecurity. Maybe he was around 24 yrs old
The ol how many guitar players does it take to change a lightbulb .....He did it first
Hatin on Andy Summers .....Joe Perry, Blackmore
Diamond Dave = Best frontman ever
EVH = Best guitarist ever
Michael Anthony = Best backing vocals ever (and pretty awesome on the bass!)
AVH = Best drummer ever (ok, maybe a stretch, but he's superb and never gets the credit due)
Van Halen = Best band ever
FWIW, I really only think 2 (ok, maybe 3) of my statements above are the absolute truth (but i'm not admitting which ones).
I’m guessing it must be 1 that is false?
My favorite EVH tones were probably on VHII & 1984.
Still, it's really hard for me to pick a favorite. One album that I think is criminally underrated for tone, for example, is Diver Down (which nobody talks about).
Agree w/you on the rhythm playing … some of his rhythm playing is more difficult than his lead playing.
Damn, already encouraging me to break my self imposed rule of not responding?
Since I'm feeling like a rule breaker, no, #1 is true. But that's it … no more responses.
Philly Spectrum 1978..lights went down..dun..dun..dun dun...lighta came on diamond dave jumped up & it was Running with the Devil..then Eruption..we were like WTF is this..almost a trance in the place as VH kicked our asses..the..the reason i was there Black Sabbath..Ozzy forgot his words & just stood their in a stupor..so disappointed..but VH..killed it....i grew out of the tapping & stuff..but.. thought they would rule the rock world..never happened for me..luckily..things got heavier..kill em all -started a whole decade of thrash for me ...i held onto JP & IM & AC/dc to this day tho....
That's right , the background vocals of Michael Anthony were as distinctive a part of VH as the shreddin'
They were quite a combination, never to be reproduced again.
They get my vote as best band ever also, that I have come across.
MD is full of 20/20.
Do not mind him.