V30 and G12-65 question

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  1. MK333

    MK333 Active Member

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    So after looking at a bunch of cabs I think I found a cool 1960a with 2 newer Vintage 30s and 2 newer G12-65s in it. The owner has them side by side so you can play either set or all 4. My question is should I criss cross them or leave them? Do they pair well?
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't take much to try, set the cab on its side to start then set it on its other side and see if you like it. Lastly you can x-pattern and see if you like, then go with the one you like best or none at all. What amp is it for?
     
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    I am playing a 1987 jcm 2210
     
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    I've had both of those speakers and I'm not a fan of V30 or G1265, I really like the G12T75 with my 2204, I recommend getting a stock 1960a cab. :yesway:
     
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    I had a stock 1960a cab but I found it needed more low end, just my ears and opinion. I realize that has alot to do with the amp also but I am hoping to get some deeper tones out of something else.
     
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    Mixing a large dust cap speaker like the G12-65 and a small dust cap speaker like the V30 will make it very tough to properly EQ the upper mids and treble. You should see about getting four of each and not mixing them, based on my customer's experience, and my own. Good luck!
     
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    Thanks for the info, I would have never thought about this and that is why I post these questions here. :dude:
     
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    You're welcome.
     
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    My 2210 is a Canadian version with 4 or 8 ohm output. Any thoughts on how to run it to a 1960 cab? Excuse the redundant question as it has probably been asked before lol
     
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    Should do well imho
     
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    They are terrible speakers.
    Both of them.
    Especially V30 which is such an average speaker.
    Yikes ! ! !
    You do not need to mix speakers.
    You just need to find a speaker that you love.
    Not 2 speakers.
    I always recommend to the people that are mixing speakers to get Celestion G12 35 XC.
    That speaker sits exactly between M and H magnet.
    It is nicely balanced and sounds great clean too
    .2
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I'm not a fan of mixing speakers although alot of people are. You could go with a 1960b it would give you better low end.
     
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    Thanks man much appreciated
     
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    If your amp does 8 ohms wire your cab to 8 ohms so they match. I'm a G12T75 fan and youre not, I have a 2x12 with those speakers and I get plenty of low end so I dont know whats your problem. Maybe your tubes are worn out or the bias isnt set right, check that out. If your amp situation is good maybe you need different pickups in your guitar or try an EQ pedal to get more low end. How loud are you playing, that is a 100 watt amp, if youre playing at bedroom volume it might be sacrificing your low end.
     
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    Ansolutely I agree. Especially in a carpet concrete basement without castors
     
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    Talk to a guy here named @NewReligion he plays 2210's and V30's and gets really good tone, he will be able to give you advice or help you tweak your amp.

    I play my 2204 at volume 1 through a 2x12 and get awesome home volume tone then use different pedals for varying degree of gain.
     
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    Contrary to what some might say, those are all good speakers. Mr. Scumback knows a hell of a lot more than I do, so perhaps they won't work well together, but use your ears and decide for yourself what you like best because that's what matters.
     
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    Maybe try an oversize cab like an Orange or Bogner. If you are in a basement, then G12T75's do work well in that environment. Be prepared though, if you move your rig to a normal sounding room your rig may sound like you have a blanket on the cab. In my experience, the T75s really have too much bottom end for a Marshall 1960 cab. Play some heavy palm muting and you will hear that vrump sound which sounds like the cab is going to come apart. Put those same speakers in an Orange or a Bogner and they handle all the bottom of those T75s. It is also very important to note that an individual speaker can sound drastically different in a different sized cab and even depending on what material the grill cloth is made of.
     
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    Oh, I should also say, when I was confined to a basement, the worse cab I had ever heard was a Marshall loaded with V30's. That spikey upper mids was like a knife in the ears.
     
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