tips for fixing popped up frets

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  1. jchrisf

    jchrisf Well-Known Member

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    I recently purchased used a PRS SE 245 Soapbox for a nice price. The neck was very straight and it plays really good. However, I kept hearing a little wierd buzzing that I didn't like so I put the right amount of relief in and now it is worse. The lower strings fret out when I try to bend them. I realized after closer inspection that the last two frets have come up out of the fretboard a little. What would be the quickest way to fix this? I really can't even reach these frets so I've thought about just pulling them out. I did try to hammer them in but they didn't budge. Maybe I should just sand them down?
     
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    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    Start the reactor... Free Mars!
    Sometimes when frets don't go down in the slot, the production glues them in w/ epoxy.
    To remove the fret they heat it up till the epoxy comes loose.
    So if you don't want to pull the fret out, then the only thing is to level it to match the other frets.
     
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  3. South Park

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    take it to a Luther and have it reinstalled . The slot was not cut deep enough .
     
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    Start the reactor... Free Mars!
    Typically when the fret pops out, the slot was cut too wide to start with...the tangs won't grab which is why they epoxy the fret in.
    It's a QA issue, should have never passed inspection and should have been fixed before being sold.
     
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    if the frets are higher than the others, and you feel confident about doing it, you might use sand paper to sand them down.

    as I think you are novice in this, start using 400 paper, when you reach the desired height 800, 1200, 2000, maybe 2500 or 3000 and a rubber.
     
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    Have a good pro fix it, it shouldn't cost much and will be done right. :yesway:
     
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    I would get it done professionally.
    I found this on YT.
    Judging by this vid, the repair should be fairly cheap and quick, but a final fret dress is probably needed.

     
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    I think I am going to try and repair this myself. Anybody got a recommendation on a tool to pull the fret out? Also, where do you get your sandpaper to level the fretboard?
     
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    you can use a fret cutter to pull the fret. there are similar pliers that you can buy to to the same job for a smaller price.
    https://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Types_of_Tools/Pliers_and_Cutters/StewMac_Fret_Cutter.html

    Generally I buy sandpaper in the nearest hardware store I find and generally paint stores that sells automotive stuff will have it to the finer grain.
     
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    but again... if you are new to this and you like the guitar take it to a setup in your guitar tech. probably he will level the entire fretboard.
     
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    oh... and the last "ghetto solution". you can buy those squared nail file sandpapers at sally beaty and ulta. I use it a LOT to polish my fretjobs.

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    use a stone to sand the frets level , take ya time
     
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    What stone do you recommend?
     
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    Gunsmiths use a file stones to take the corners off of gun parts. Also work for frets
     
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    any stone that's straight about 200mm long ,and take your time , get a 600mm rule, and check lots, make sure 101%, that the neck is straight before you start
     
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    I was able to pull the frets out with a regular pair of pliers.. They were up far enough I could get hold of them. The first 3/4s came up easy but I had to use a solder gun to heat the last 1/4 to get it to slide out like butter. Plays like a dream now.. and I think I can probably reuse them. I really love this guitar.
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    That is mind blowing about a PRS instrument having bad frets like this
     
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