Things To Consider Before You Buy A 2203/2204

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  1. GIBSON67

    GIBSON67 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Levant in decent shape, but the wrong switches. I have been trying some hot output pickups lately,
    and the tone is great through my G12-80 quad!

    It has a Metro master volume on the back which is good at getting that cranked sound, but I'd rather turn
    that master up full and use it like it it supposed to be used. And I like having a Presence control.
    But it was done well, so I don't think I'll remove it at this point.
     
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    The problem is you got the wrong tolex color...The red 2204 - that's all you need! :)
     
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    It’s all subjective, after getting my lbx ii I sold all of my Marshall’s ( 2554 , 4104 , 2203x and Astoria custom ) . Turns out that the lbx is the only amp I need to play killer sounding classic rock and 80’s metal . Actually the lbx destroys the above mentioned at 80’s metal , and believe me I tried every type of dirt pedal etc. going with the Marshall’s .
     
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    solarburnDSL50 Well-Known Member

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    I love my 2203...Grab some neck! WTF is an LBX?

     
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    No. I don't believe such a statement.:D
     
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    solarburnDSL50 Well-Known Member

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    Grab those strings and make it sing...
     
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    solarburnDSL50 Well-Known Member

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    my kinda player!
     
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    Pure poetry my man :yesway:....
     
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    You're right, it is subjective. The 5150 series amps have a different tonality, not Marshall-like at all (IMO). Not saying it's a bad thing, but they definitely don't cop the Marshall vibe, which is what I associate with classic and 80's rock. I had a Splawn Quickrod for a couple of years, great amp, different than a Marshall, but in some ways similar in tonality to a 5150 (I, II, III...). Just my opinion (which is also subjective).
     
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    Seems a bit misguided, actually building an amp that is so obviously not the right amp for you?? Esp when there are so many used examples out there to try...

    Pretty much all pre 1990 Marshalls are made to be goosed with something—Hendrix, Page, Angus, Zakk Wylde, Kerry King. Again, if you aren’t into that, this is definitely not the amp for you.

    As for the JCM800 series not doing metal adequately, cmon man, really? Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer, Mastodon, Michael Schenker..throw an OD in front and turn it up. Easy recipe, just gotta bring the chops.
     
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    Think about it 5150’s are out of the box modded Marshall’s . A large number of Marshall’s used by pro’s in the 80’s were modded . A modded Marshall ain’t gonna sound the same as a standard one , it would be a pointless exercise if it did .
     
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    OK, I thought about it, and I would not consider a 5150 to be a "modded Marshall". I've never even seen it stated that the amp was designed to sound like a Marshall, it is it's own thing. I've had many modded Marshall's, and they still sounded like Marshall's, just with more gain than stock. Our other guitarist has a 5150 III, so I hear the amp at least once a week. I would describe it as thicker in the mids than a Marshall, and lacking the high end bite, typical of a Marshall. We have to run his treble and presence fairly high for him to cut through on solos. If I had to compare it to a Marshall, I'd say it's maybe in the same zip code as a Jubilee. Just my opinion, based on what I hear. Not here to debate, but I will voice my opinion, and we just have different opinions.
     
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    I had a JCM 900 combo I picked up for $175.
    It had problems when I bought it...I knew that.
    They couldn't be easily resolved.
    A 2204 circuit is simple to build and cheap (since all I needed was a board and passive components...maybe $80 worth of material). The chassis had 3 preamp tube sockets, and 2 power-amp sockets and the transformers. That 900 became my guinea pig.
    With all the rave of the 2204...and never having owned one...no, it wasn't super obvious it wasn't going to work for me until I tried it.

    Like you list out..all those bands did use it or something similar. Back in the day. Because that is what was available.
    Again...throw an OD in front...that says the amp itself isn't enough.
    And truth be told....everyone of those bands have moved on to amps more suitable to the genre of music they play (Except for Kerry King of Slayer and his guitar tone isn't very good relatively speaking and I am a Slayer fan).

    If a JVM (or any high distortion capable amplifier) was introduced at the same time as the JCM 800 series, 2203/2204 circuit amplifiers would be laughed at, especially in the rock/metal circles.
     
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    who is that nub? Crazy MF'er.:facepalm:
     
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    All I know is I can get spot on Schenker tones with the lbx than any Marshall I’ve owned , and there’s been many , all top draw Marshall’s . That’s good enough for me . A tip for anyone using a 5150 iii is to dine the presence and adjust everything else to suit , works great. Also get the master volume up to at least 3 .
     
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    Sorry bout my shenanigans.

    Seriously though...what is an lbx?

    love MS tonez...
     
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