Things To Consider Before You Buy A 2203/2204

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  1. pedecamp

    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    Seriously it can be done, you can get the goods at low volume with some pedals and it sounds fantastic. :yesway:
     
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    I bought another 2204 after falling prey to the modding craze. Voodoo Amps did the mods. I was not impressed with it after. It lost the original character it had. I had a tube loop put in but hated it. I like the parallel loop like the DSL's better. So years later I bought another one. Its staying stock. Now if the mini Jubilee was out when I bought it again I may have got the Jubilee instead. Now I want the Jubillee to fill the void the 2204 has. Low watt, loop and channel switching. Someday I hope. The 2204 does have that sound though. Something no other amp has for sure.
     
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    BftGibson Well-Known Member

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    yes and some more yes
     
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    neikeel Well-Known Member

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    Part of the secret is to use a 2200pF treble peaker (over the 470k after the jacks and a small (100-180pF cap on the pot. Give it a try next time you are playing around one of these;)
     
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  5. tidbit

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    It can be done but, to me, for a bedroom rig, it seems like overkill. To each their own but I guess my definition of a bedroom rig is different is all.

    Is a Marshall Major now considered a small club rig?
     
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    And welcome to the forum, if ya got to go big! Go big!! Cheers Mitch!
     
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    Since you showed me yours...I'll show you mine! Holy grail tone!


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    Major too! :yesway:
     
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    SonVolt Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    2203x with a Hopkins mod is the shit for getting that cranked + boosted 800 tones at any volume.

    I’ve absolutly nailed the early VH tone using the 2203x and an FX8 in stereo.
     
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    SV I would love to hear it!!! Cheers Mitch
     
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    I don't know how to record! I tried using my iPhone but it's clipping the mic and sounds like mud.
     
  12. AlvisX

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    Early one ,like mine
    It is Levant or Elephant tolex ?
    Mine is elephant and was only ever drilled for a big logo
     
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    I've got a JMP 2204, love it. But I'm an 80s metal guy.

    Still, I thought Zakk Wylde & Kerry King used unmodded JCMs before their signature amps.
     
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    While I did love my 2204 I totally agree with the original post to a T. It is a one trick pony and yes it sounded great I felt it under performing for those reasons. Now I may I add now the same situation with now the mini JCM800/ SV20 as well. You are going to have the same problems even though its less wattage. Sadly this is the truth behind those models. Yes it did nail AC/DC but not much else that well. No clean channel without switching inputs. I sold mine and it funded my 2525h. This amp is what you want if you want an 800. It does all of what those models did and more. Channel swtiching and clean tones as well. Marshall has never made a true hot rodded model based off them. Wonder why. With my 2525h my tone quest is complete.
     
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    That is a very informative and I believe, accurate post @GuitarIV. I never thought of the Jcm800s as anything other than a Classic Rock and Blues amp, it seems to be in its DNA.

    I’m not a metal guy and I really don’t understand guys choosing these amps for metal, regardless of any and all the pedals needed to get there. They’re just not that kind of amp imo.
     
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    That’s quite an interesting post. I’ve never played a Jubliee so I’m fairly ignorant about them. Would you expand a bit on its capabilities @Msharky67?

    Hoping this is not viewed as a derail of the thread.
     
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    I had to go back and reread this thread to refresh my memory on its content. Many posters, especially AlvisX, said it better than I can. My only contribution is how important speakers are to these models. G12M25s or G12-65s in a 4x12 are a match.
     
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    They have more gain and channel switching. They don't need a pedal but you can use one to add more. Much broader tonal range than the 800's.
     
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    Well, ya gotta think back ,to what was "metal" in 1976 . 2203 was it man ,and ruled the roost for the genre (I hate that word BTW)

    Im not a metal guy by today's standards either ...but 40 years ago I probably woulda been .

    The 2203/04 are not my preferred Marshall's . I like 4 holers better . But for me the 03/04's have been at times , the quicker way to the "crunch" .....which is what I guess they intended
     
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    Yea but there is something to be said for blowing the covers back as opposed to simply pulling them back.:)
     

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