The time has come-AxeFx or Kemper Profiler?

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  1. Frodebro

    Frodebro Well-Known Member

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    Missing the 'like' button again...
     
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    Why hath Alex foresaken thee?
     
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    :yesway: I enjoyed that
     
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    Well, I'm getting very curious about the Helix... great routing options
     
  5. Australian

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    Gee ...I was underwhelmed with what Kemper had to offer at NAAM this year.
    They seemed disorganized and underprepared in the interviews at their NAMM booth I watched online. :scratch:
     
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    :lol:

    HELL ya!

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    Would that be a modeling amp that models a modeling amp?

    :lol:
     
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  8. Australian

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    Captain Kemper would slap your wrist.
    Profiling and Modelling are two different technologies.
    Its like comparing growing an ear with DNA compared to making an ear out of papier mache.
     
  9. Australian

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    If you enjoy lots of tweaking and routing etc. the Helix is for you.
    What I like about the Kemper is that the way you route and tweak is very intuitive. You still feel like you havnt left the amplifier environment and moved into virtual reality.It still feels like youre working with physical effects loops, stomp boxes, and an amplifier at the heart of it all.
     
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    Profiling and true amplifier modeling is one in the same.

    You model a rig or amplifier setup while building a profile for said rig or amplifier. Then you save while naming it whatever you want.

    The technology has been around for decades.

    Kemper seems to have made the process easier and more user friendly through various technological interfaces. Kudos.

    The thing is you cannot compare $249 processing power to $1990 processing power.
     
  11. Australian

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    Power of discernment being the watchword. Thus rigid concepts of intricate compounding technologies defy the googlified discombobulated forum "erudite."
     
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    Can you tell between the Kemper and a real amp? apparently not.

     
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    Beta 5.0 just released-all kinds of great new delays. Gonna close the curtains and turn off the phone for the rest of the weekend...
     
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    I could not listen to the whole 28 minutes. It was like listening to the media and democrats in the US.

    I will not explain that.
     
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    True that. Way too much chatter for me as well.

    Anyone compare the Kemper with something like Guitarix? Of course the Kemper will be easier to use but tonewise i'd think Guitarix should be as good?
     
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    I keep telling you guys that guitar amplifier modeling has been around for 30 years. They just keep repackaging it.
     
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    I do get some pretty good tones with Guitarix - Marshall, Mesa/Boogie, Peavey, Vox, Randall, etc. It took me quite a while to figure it all out though.
     
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    I still have this GSP 2101. It was THE unit to get, around $3500 with the foot-controller in the 90's. Like all the other predecessors to the Kemper and Axe/FX Its nostalgia...nothing more than that.
    Your statement was tongue in cheek obviously. :hmm:


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    Yeah. I've been waiting to see if there are any bugs before I get it. It sounds good from some of the clips I've heard.


    How is it?
     
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    I haven't spent much time with it, but so far it looks like I can remove one of the H9s. The delays sound really good, and have a lot of tweakable parameters. Still waiting on the reverb updates, though.
     

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