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Discussion in 'Marshall Amps' started by Michael Roe, Jan 26, 2019.
Wrong amp brother
Wrong answer brother, this amp I believe covers everything in my book. Did you get one yet to test out? I got the SC20H
1) low watt
2) small and light weight
3) effects loop
4) quiet or loud as fukk, however you choose to play
Somebody asked for a DSL 20HR vs SV20 vid......here is a quick clip
I didn't use the same cabs but they are the same speaker-65 watt creambacks. Also a good example to show how speaker size can make a big difference in tone. I tried to set each amp up with about the same gain and volume.
Good demo Mike, theres no way to dial that compression out of the DSL thats why I dont have one any more, that SV20 on the other hand sounded awesome.
Thanks. I like them both. The SV-Vintage, the DSL-Modern.
You used the term "compression". I hear guys say that a lot and I don't get it. I am an audio engineer as well and to me compression is something different. I would describe the DSL as more bass heavy with a scooped midrange. As an audio engineer, actually the SV is way more "compressed" sounding. Compression means boosting the quieter parts of the sound to hear more of the subtleties of the tone. So, the SV has waaay more compression
I can see the SC working out,but not the SV which I thought we were talking about.My bad. This is the Studio Vintage thread right?
The DLS sounded more mid-scooped to me, not more compressed.
The DSL just don't have no mids. It sounds ok but the SV smokes it.
Yes, the DSL is like Marshall's red headed step child, but he's a hard worker and does a pretty good job on most things (coming from a DSL owner).
Both amps sound good but my ears like the sv20 more, only because it reminds me of the 1987xl! Nice little riff to brother, thanks for sharing! Cheers
And if my opinion matters they both excell in what they do and each has a place in the stable
Scooped, compressed, whatever you want to call it, I dont like it, I had 2 DSLs and they both had it and it couldnt be dialed out therefore I dont own them any more. I like the vintage style Marshall tones better, thats what I prefer, a more open and airy tone.
Not trying to ruffle your feathers You say you couldn't dial it out. Did you ever try dialing it in, meaning lowering the bass and adding more mids? also, cranking the volume and lowering the gain, more like a plexi?
Yup tried everything without success, DSL doesnt work for me.
I don’t yet own one of the new studio vintage heads and I’m really trying to talk myself out of one lol so I can’t do a direct comparison but I do have a ‘72 1959 and honestly with a hotplate at -4 or -8 dB I cant hear any earth shattering difference at all in the tone. With the Fryette PS1 I would say there is even more less of a change at low to moderate attenuation.
I’m feel sure these new amps will do the low volume thing better as that is what they are designed to do but I think with a good attenuator, low to moderate levels of attenuation and allowing the speakers to move some air I’m on the fence if these will give you anything better then their big brothers.
Here's another clip found on youtube - he uses a volume pedal in the loop, too - with cranked volumes on the amp:
Great vid !! Both amps are great..been doing a lot of A/B ing myself since the studios came out(dont have one) but doing some classics just to really pay attention. Plexi is plexi & dsl is dsl..both are great circuits..just choose your fav and run with it. The DSL came out after Marshall had the 800 rodded up thru the years and the DSL is a "Voice" of its own..as a player , i wil always have a plexi-800-DSL..you have those 3, you got a lot covered..the DSL is a fantastic do it all amp..its a giggers dream. and does very well standing on its own..also ihave a plexi mod on DSL 100h, would love to hear that comparison..my tech matched my jmp50 pretty darn close for just a small $$
Just like i will do, use a volume pedal in the loop when the amp arrive
Why the hell does practically everyone jumper the channels in all these videos??? Damn, dime every knob, plug into bright 1, use those knobs on your guitar and let it eat! normal channel does bleed so if you want a little bass you don’t have to jumper.