The Official Marshall Origin 50 Thread

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  1. Jerbear114 tnt

    Jerbear114 tnt Member

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    I got the 20h but thanks for the heads up !
     
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    last question which one of the pre amp tubes effects the break up (distortion) ? if there is 1 that does that..
     
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    Actually I emailed Celestion yesterday.

    This was thier response.... quite frankly not very informative...

     
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    MarshallDog: Can you tell us how the Creamback compares to stock?
    You made tube changes too though.
     
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    The 50 needs biasing with tube changes.
     
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    The store Owner I got mine from talked with his Marshall Rep this morning. Apprarently this is the second amp in the last week that has been shipped w/o the power scaling wires being hooked up. Marshall is taking this seriously and doing a QC inspection and review. I told him Marshall should send me a 50 dollar gift card. It would have cost them a lot more if it had been returned.
     
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    ok, just installed the mallard el34 6ca7 power tubes to go with the tung sol ecc83 7025 pre amp tubes and together this amp rocks , it sounds good stock but to me it sounds great now !!! thanks for the help with this combo marshalldog !!!
     
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    Just with power tube changes or both power and preamp?
     
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    looks like L&M east in Calgary just got a 50 combo in, so gonna go check it out this afternoon. :hbang:
     
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    Just the PTs.
     
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    I wish Marshall would have copied the DSL40CR and put external bias points on the Origin. It’s super easy on the40CR!
     
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    That would have been real handy. I guess we will see this in the "R" version in a few years.
     
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    Dr. Decibel :rofl: Take my word for it Dwayne, it's a cheapo speaker. Stick a 65w Creamback in there I guarantee it will improve the amp no end.
     
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    The 50 combo speaker is okay for what it is.
    Plugged into a single Celestion Redback changes the tone big time.
    Way more punch and articulation. More bass.
     
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    Well I got to try it on low power mode, as they do not have an amp room and I think I'm done going to the east store as there is a new guy working there, this my 2nd experience with him and it's not enjoyable.

    Anyways this was my initial assessment.

    The preamp is very responsive and very indicative of whether it sounds thin or not when you have the preamp down low it sounds quite thin even with the master cranked but as soon as you bring that pre up to up to about seven or more it starts to open up a bit and when it's on 10 and using your guitar volume for gain, it's very full, definitely not thin at all. Unfortunately I wasn't really able to dig in with the master on anything more than about 1.5 - 2 and even then he guys giving me the evil eye.....

    I noticed the tilt control was extremely responsive too. I tried with 1st a stock Gibson V and then an SG. Both $2000 guitars.

    I then made the mistake of commenting about the brand of tubes this one shipped with as it seems Marshall uses whatever is available and you cant really see the tubes and he replied that he thought it was solid state amp..........

    I pretty much turned it off and left after that.

    They also had the 5w combo... maybe I'll find out which day the dude has off and go back.

    Anyways I think it sounded great. $999.00 CDN. Left me wanting more... maybe I'll order one when there's a sale.
     
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    My origin 50 in action last night thru a 212 with G12Ms and my R9. I felt it sat very well in the mix as a rhythm player
     
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    I think the Origin Series will warm up to players who are in the market for something "vintage-ey"... I personally liked it when I tried the 20-watt head... It's definitely different from my 25-watt Fargen 1968 Lead/Bass Plexi...my hands and ears tell me the tone and feel is closer to the JMP Bluesbreaker when gain is cranked and boost is disengaged...

    There are so many mixed reviews on the other board (mostly negatives) based on what they heard on YouTube videos (poor recording didn't do the amp any justice)... I say, try one and judge it based on your hands-on experience....
     
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    :agreed:
     
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    Origin 20 loves Heritage Greenback... Me likey.
     
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    Looking for something I don't remember what.
    I reckon I would plump for the 20w head. Cathode bias means you should be able to drop any matched pair of octal tubes in and be good to go....same as Astoria. Has a loop and all the features of the 50w and 20 watts is plenty loud enough for rehearsals and bar gigs. Just mic it up for bigger venues / outside.
    However, I already have an Astoria Dual combo so the only real feature an Origin head can offer me is ease of transport....which is becoming much more important to my 58 year old body.
     
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