The Official Marshall Origin 50 Thread

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  1. MarshallDog

    MarshallDog Well-Known Member

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    :agreed::applause:
     
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    Plate voltage gives the range. Fine tune it from there and you got it. Ears and fingerz based off the PV. The sweet spot exists.

    Fucking slaves to the PV! Or burn your glass or crystallize it. Either of these I hate.
     
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    Yeah I thought that was an ignorant statement coming from someone at Marshall.
     
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    So to answer part of your question, the Origin 50 head cab is about 2 ½ inches shorter than a 1987 head cab but the Origin 50 chassis fits nicely inside it.
     
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    True about the range, but with only one trim pot, then each tube can't be dialed in individually. Best have a matched pair.
     
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    Thank you!
    It looks good in the 1987 cab.
     
  7. MarshallDog

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    What is causing this change in cabs???
     
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    He is showing me how the Origin fits in the cab. That tells me it will fit in a Bluesbreaker type combo cab.
     
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    Oh so you bought the head version and may want to convert it to the combo version, I got it. Did you not like the combo aesthetics?
     
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    I like the 50 combo and keeping it.
    I might buy a 50H too. I want the option of putting it in a combo cab if I need it.
    Yes, I really like the 50 Origin.
     
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    Cool...the Bluesbreaker combo cabs always look beautiful!
     
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    Why not put bias points on an amp that needs to be biased when changing power tubes. 65 mv/ma could be right with 2 tubes that are matched but why all this confusion with a new amp. I'll wait for their new and improved version that will come out eventually. I really wanted to love this amp. A simple amp with just enough drive/crunch that could be pushed a little harder with a pedal. For now the DSL is where it's at for me. Just wish that Marshall would have made the DSL in 40H or 50H watt. I have the DSL20HR (new and improved) and I'm lovin it.
     
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    I dont like any DSL.
     
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    If the DSL is not for you then I get it. In the Classic gain channel you could push the gain to a "light crunch" and boost it with a drive pedal. The DSL20HR gives me some concern that it might not have enough with a heavy handed drummer and some other like minded accompanying musicians. This is why i so wanted the Origin 50H to be "the' amp.
     
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    I have a origin 20h can I put a ecc83s pre-amp tube (phase inverter) tube in v1 ?
     
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    I believe all the pre-amp tubes in the 20H are just like the ones in the 50 which are all 12ax7/ecc83/ecc83s.
     
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    yes they are, but and this might be a dumb question but one of the pre amp tubes is phase inverter is that ok ?
     
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    A simple mod I did:

    I added (2) 5600 pF caps, in parallel for a total of 11200 pF, across the middle and right legs of the mid pot (when the chassis is upside down and you are looking at the back of the pot. It really makes the Tilt feature more usable and it reduces the thinness of the upper high freqs making the amp sound thicker, deeper (not dark at all)...I frickin' love it!!!!! I also have the Mullard EL 34 PTs and Mullard 12ax7/CV4004 tubes in it. I went back to the Celestion Creamback G12M-65 speaker and its tonal old school lower gain Marshall bliss...wow. Blues yes way and add a bit of OD to it and AC/DC perfectly. I strongly feel that any amp that sounds great in head form needs that cap across the mid pot when its placed in a combo due to the open back. Marshall added a 4700 pF cap across the pot on the old JCM 800 vertical input combos way back. Just my two cents.
     
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    Yes...
     
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    thanks
     

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