The Obesesion continues "UFO"

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  1. jstich

    jstich Well-Known Member

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    I love Schenker , but Ive never heard this song before. That was cool. Austrailian , youre such a smartass Im sure youre note for note proper version is coming soon.
     
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    But I will not hold my breath waiting on it haha
     
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    He is a bit of of a smartie but he can also play and sing pretty damn good . Wait He needs no defense.
     
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    I found this background... It has some of the keyboard parts, but, even when I gave it a quick attempt, the background parts seemed not to jive. They sound right, when listening, but, playing along they jump out like WTF? :shrug:

    https://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/play/ufo/let_it_roll.htm

    that said, I've never really tried playing along to the song & have only learned parts by memory...
     
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    I just put the CD on repeat until I can play it, then just jam with the band!
    Cheers Mitch
     
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    I've learned what I have by watching him play it... :)...
     
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    I can’t always do that , oh wait wit YouTube now we can, but I still do it the old way I have always done it!
     
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    I don’t like that backing track . I have a friend in Ca. actually 2 drummers that can play the song damn good all it needs for a killer backing track is a bass player ? But that’s a long way from here .
     
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    A lot of people do exactly that . The one guy I know learned rock bottom from Schenker in person way back before I had even seen them.He has pictures.
    He was a real player. Still is , he played in Assault Attack a L.A. band.
     
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    I've seen him play it so many x's. I go to concerts sober, so I somewhat study the playing & concentrate on deeper things, than just rocking out. I've seen Schenker upwards of 50 x's...

    Here's a sample from when I saw ibmorjamn last time (IIRC)...

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/czdyqvkvlrqkj3o/roll.mp3?dl=0

    incidentally, this is pretty much how I play it.
     
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    Cool Dogs !
     
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    I have tried again but it’s still not ready . Everyday but today I took a break . I know the parts but some of the faster stuff is still difficult .

    Dogs , I know he is constantly using the volume for rhythm and lead what I don’t get is how he gets the low “E” to be so quite. The other thing is of course the studio has multi tracks dubbed . One thing that bothers me is I can get a sweet lead tone with the reverb and delay on my tube amp but it doesn’t sound as good on the rhythm. At the moment I put the delay in front and switch on for lead but the reverb is always on.

    While listening to the old band the rhythm seems more dry. Schenker always had someone else playing rhythm even in his band. I guess I could use my reverb pedal but for the recording I may need to multitrack.
     
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    MS generally uses low gain. Also, he uses a wah. Even when the wah is off, it has a degrading effect, that people nowdays try to overcome by buffering or fixing a tru-bypass system. The problem is, that degradation contributes to the sound.

    Using an amp like a JMP, will get you closer than a JCM800 or later - especially amp's that claim to be "hot-rodded" JCM800 clones...

    Wayne uses a pretty high gain set-up & I think made MS use a bit more gain on his 2205. Still though, the 2205 isn't that gainy, like the DSL Wayne used...
     
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    Wish I had a JMP but big amps are loud even my little amp is to loud Probably why I use the pod more. I had a 2205 , even though Schenker plays it , I like his UFO tone better (JMP). I never had the tone I like even with a 100w DSL jcm 2000.
    There is just not enough power in the power section. I know Wayne used them. They were all mike through the p.a. right ?
     
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    That really good , sounds like himself even without gain. lol
    Where was that show ?
     
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    the SV20 will get you there... :)...
     
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    He uses a lot of reverb :
     
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    the CoachHouse. There was around 50 people there. I sat w/ Wayne's mom/dad, sister, gf, etc... Wayne hung out w/ us before the show...
     
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