The Grind Of Gigging & Being Up To Snuff

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  1. axe4me

    axe4me Well-Known Member

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    I filled in for my buddy on a gig a month ago.

    The day after the gig, I e mailed the band and my buddy thanking them for the opportunity and that I'm interested.

    My buddy told me that they'll probably ask you to join the band.

    My buddy is a super guitar player.

    He plays in multiple bands, gives guitar lessons and works full time.

    I told him that I can only play in one band now and still do fill ins.

    About 2 weeks ago, my buddy told me that the band is looking for another guitarist and they put an ad in Facebook.

    OK, I got my answer.

    The soap opera continues................I was asked last week by the band leader if I'm interested in sitting down with him to talk about the band.

    I said OK.

    That was in my e mail reply 3 days ago.

    Haven't heard a thing since.

    Anyway, the soap opera/saga continues.

    I'm auduitioning for a gigging club band next week.

    I'm not Joe Bonamassa but you'd think I can get a response from this temp situation.
     
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    Yeah.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...t-fully-alive/201807/be-careful-what-you-wish

    I think we all say, "yeah, I can do that, it's not brain sergury".

    Well, can we come up with it?

    For the most part, we all can clone what we hear but can we come up with it on the fly?

    I dunno.

    I'm doing the clone thing with cover stuff.

    Sessions and original stuff is a different ball game.

    Do bands play originals because they can't do covers?

    Again, I don't know.....but it seems that way.:rolleyes:

    Be careful what you wish for.................well, I've dodged the bullet before (literally).

    I'm still alive and, like all of you, I test the boundries.

    Artists are weird people.

    We do and demand strange things.

    I haven't had the opportunity to demand no brown M&M's.
     
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    Being in a "band" is like being in a marriage to 3, 4, 5 or more people.
    All their bad habits & defects of character & assets you take on when you sign up.
    In the 80's i thought it was hard to find a band but i was never without one for long.
    Looking back it was easier than today.
    You'd think the internet would make it easier but not really.
    Lots of posers & wannbe's & no shortage of crappy bands, kinda like used cars.
    Plus i just don't want the drama & 3am loadouts or living in a van or motels for months.
     
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    @axe4me - if there's one thing you can rely on in dah biz...
    ...it's that you can't rely on anyone but yourself...
    ...and even that is open for debate.
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    The clue is: they use facebook.
    The more you are on facebook, the deeper you sink into the social media crap pile.
    Look for a band that's real, grounded on earth. Not in social media.

    The kind of people who stare at their smart phones all...day...long.
    Their whole life is pushing buttons on a smart phone.
    That's the kind to avoid.
    Find some real musicians, not smart phone addicts.
     
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    "Being in a "band" is like being in a marriage to 3, 4, 5 or more people."

    I'm sure I was the first one to say that, about 40 years ago.
     
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    You just stepped in cold turkey and did the gig? That’s amazing dude. Well done.

    The problem I found is there are boat loads of guitar players available. A fair amount of drummers. Zero good vocals and zero good keyboards available generally. All the good ones are gone or if you find one they are hired guns only doing it only for cash and in multiple bands.

    The best way is for something to evolve naturally. It’s the best way. So, you’re lucky. Imagine the egos. Imagine the bullshit you just avoided. They maybe back anyway ....
     
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    Thank you all for your input.

    I think we've all been in the game for a long time.

    If I'm going to play the club scene, I'd like it to be with some people who are musicians are not drama queens.

    Many, many moons ago, I was in a house band that gigged 4 or 5 times a week.

    I did that for 7 years.

    From age 14 to 21, I did the club scene.

    We were very good.

    Young and in demand.

    It's amazing that I graduated HS and college.

    Now, I'm like Al Pacino, in a Godfather movie, saying "I was out and they pull me back in".



    If I'm going to do this, the band needs to be human musicians.

    Yeah, right.
     
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    Guys like Sean Tubbs; Pete Thorn; Phil X; Harry Maes; Greg Koch; Laura Cox...............all tremendous players.

    Are they household names?

    Luck is VERY important
     
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    Luck is very important if you are looking to be recognized / famous, in almost any field. Obviously, the skills are required, too. Think about athletes - college level, looking to get into a pro level sanction. They have the skills; but what sets one apart from the next? Personality, composure, ego, etc. maybe, maybe it's luck that they played their biggest game; and a scout happened to be there to take notice. How many play, hoping to make it big vs how many don't go beyond their college years? I think the same applies to musicians, too. How many great players are out there, that just don't get noticed? Maybe it's the band they are in, maybe it's song selection, maybe they don't market themselves, or can't. I'm not sure I would rule out social media as a means to find a band to join, some may use it just as a tool for networking / advertising. You certainly meet some "interesting" people that way. Maybe, you get lucky, and find a good fit. You just don't know unless you try. I got lucky answering an old ad posted in a music store. The guys ended up being pretty cool, and everyone's personalities meshed well. To me, that is probably the most important factor.
     
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    I just found out that my music director (she's a super talented person) at Holy Family church has been let go at the end of June.

    I think my gig with them will end at the end of June too.

    ....................rumour has it, the Spanish musicians will be retained when the parishes merge.

    Rumour has it that they play for free.

    Maybe I'll be asked to play for free?

    Nah.
     
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    At least, the parish should buy all the beer and Cajun food the band can eat. Otherwise it's probably not worth it.
     
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    :funny:
     
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    The only way I’d go back to gigging with 3 or 4 other mooches is 100% my own material, signed releases, signed NDA’s and the means to capture and produce live media.

    I can scratch my own itch by posting online if I wanted. Not interested in much else musically.
     
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    Ironic this thread would be here. I just got contacted on FB by a former bandmate from way back [drummer].
    He is road manager for a record label and asked me if i wanted to play some shows.
    I said id love to bla bla then told him i have nothing smaller than 4x12 cabs.
    He said the band in question has all the gear i need.
    I then told him i don't think id like playing other peoples gear and that dare i say that ive turned into a "tone snob".
    I said i might be able to make small tube amps work with my pedalboard but that im not interested in solid state amps.
    I have no idea if this will work or not but i really want to play my own gear.
     
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    I'm surprised that you know of Shawn Tubbs...

    While Tubbs is not a household name, he sure has a killer gig. The crazy thing is he can play, but, you'd hardly know it, because his primary role is band leader. I remember when he was in Violet Burning, w/ his brother. They used to play at the church I was going to back then...
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I sent Shawn an e mail about his large board and he responded to me.

    Shawn is a great guitarist.


     
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