The 2204

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  1. Adrian R

    Adrian R Well-Known Member

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    You know okay...after 3+ decades of Marshall ownership...owning many of their different models...I have realized that the 800s, one like this 86' 2204, is arguably the best ever rock amp.. Their so simple...but their tone is so organic, highly dynamic, and punchy. It's really hard putting into words how these things really sound and feel like. I remember in the 90s when you couldn't give these things away...but now as people have realized what's important in guitar tone...not necessarily function...they've become highly desirable. They just sound killer and epitomize the 'Marshall sound'. I have other Marshalls that sound great...but offer far more function... but in the end you're always trying to get it to sound like an 800. I have been able to get a DSL 100 to get pretty close by replacing it's transformers with models that feature similar construction to the 800 era models, and by adding a choke. However...it just isn't quite as tight and articulate...even though it's red channel wails..it's still not the same. I also have a JVM205H (50w JVM) that I also modded with a choke...it sounds close too...but it's STILL not the same even though it offers 4x time flexibility. That laws of physics will not be denied...everything comes with a price.

    Having said all of this, I have to say though that if you are looking to purchase one...I'd say go for the 2203, the 100w model...I think they sound better then the 2204/50w model. Their not necessarily all that much louder, they just punch harder and are tighter in the low mid frequencies...with greater headroom. Downside is their damn heavy..weight wise!

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    I agree completely.
     
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    I have the vertical input an 84 2204 and its amazing. This is the 4010 1x12 version and it is a mean machine!
     
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    A good 2203 is what everyone should have to go with their plexi JTM45/100. The 2203 through a -65 loaded 4x12 and the 45/100 through a pulsonic G12H 4x12.
     
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    2204 is a great amp. I wouldn't necessarily recommend a 2203 over a 2204. I think 50 watters have a sweeter tone and headroom is not something most people look for in a Marshall unless you're doing metal where the 2203 is king. I have a 2203 :)
     
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    Adrian R Well-Known Member

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    I had a 2203...tighter...me likey!
     
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    I agree it can't be beat!
     
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    84 and 89 2204’s. Running both heads via the radial switchbone is fuc&king killer!!!
     
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    It is all in the cascade gain stage of the jcm 800 line . It clips and over drives the rest of the tubes
     
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    I agree they punch and sound great and are simple.

    Too bad they are overly loud. I had a 1983 2203, i sold it to a family member, I could buy it back....hmmmm

    I found it ridiculiously loud.

    I have a jcm2000 dsl and a 2555x that i can play at much lower volumes and that sound very good. The jubilee has the same power section as the 2203 and i certai ly can get 800 out of it easily.
     
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    I have an 88 horizontal input 2204, fantastic amp. Still prefer the super lead.
     
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    I like 'em OK . They'll do in a pinch
     
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    I sold my 2203 after I built my JTM 45. My JTM 45 can do what the 2203 did and then some.
     
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    My 2203X I use a JHS Little Black Box in the loop. I can set the amp tone where I like it and pull the volume back with the JHS.
    The amp master volume pot is linear taper and goes from thin to "my god this is loud"
    at like 2 on the dial. The JHS pot in audio taper and much more gradual. It works very well for $50.
     
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    Loud? Its only as loud as you have the volume set, I'm very happy with volume on 1 for a very reasonable home volume. :yesway:
     
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    I had a 2555X...close man...but still not as organic...It's different...imo.. What I love about the JVM and the DSL...is I can use it as a practice amp...plug straight in with no pedals at low volume. The 800 needs a simple boost to get the desired compression I want. It responds really well to differing guitars...amazing..
     
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    I love the JHS with my SV20H, I wish my 2204 had a loop so I could try it there too. :yesway:
     
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    Me too. It works really well. Better than any of my other attenuators or re-amps as far as no heat and no tone loss. I zip tied it to the rear grill.
     

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