Should I buy this early '71 Super Lead? (pics inside)

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  1. NicolasB

    NicolasB New Member

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    Hi guys,

    I'm just looking at a '71 100w superlead (SN: SL/A 0299C) sold by someone in France...I need some help to know how original is it. I know there i a PPIMV rich mod on it according to the seller, but i'm more a player than an electronic guy !...What do you think? Worth it? Some work to do on it?
    Cheers!
    NB
     

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  2. NicolasB

    NicolasB New Member

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    A few pics again...Hope that will help!
    Thx! :band:
     

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  3. neikeel

    neikeel Well-Known Member

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    Yes, silly question, of course you should buy it, ASAP.
    The Rich Mod is not a bad PPIMV and helps make it usable
    It has had some minor servicing work (pilot lamp, on/off switches a bias cap etc) but no deal breaker.
    If you are going to gig it I would replace the other blue bias cap and test all the other filter caps (capacitance, ESR and leakage). If you are going to gig it hard you might consider replacing the filter caps, but only with F&T or ARS like for like.
    YMMV
     
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    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the forum Nicolas :cheers:.
    The amp looks pretty good.
    But you should understand that this amp was designed to play extremely loud.
    It won't sound that great at lower loudness.

    If you need an amp that is really loud, then this amp will work.
    But if you need an amp that sounds good at a low volume, this is not really a good choice.
     
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    Drinkingdeath01 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you need to buy that now. Not that I have any experience with that model, I just like spending other people's money.
     
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    pedecamp Well-Known Member

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    It looks very clean inside and out, you need to own this amp. :yesway:

    Hey and welcome to the forum, I hope you get it and share your thoughts about it here!
     
  7. NicolasB

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    Thx! I heard the 71' has a more bright cap on channel 1 than 69 ro 68 SL . Is it true? some guys of you have a 71? I've seen a vid on you tube by Pete Thorn, about his 72 50W sl....very very bright sounding! Your thought, gentlemen , :h5:?
     
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    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    It's "very bright sounding" because the volume is turned down too low.
    Unless you play this amp at "7" or louder to overdrive the output tubes.
    This amp was made for playing in stadiums, not garage bands.
    It's louder than a 747 jet engine.
    Most people who buy a super lead are buying the wrong choice, they don't realize what the super lead was made for.

    Most people would be happier with a DSL or smaller master volume amp.
     
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  9. Bogmonster

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    Load of shite as usual.

    @NicolasB
    they are indeed bright amps but are completely usable at lower volumes (if you're using a pedal for the dirt) and jumping the channels. But an attenuator is a must (I highly recommend the Fryette Power Station). Set clean they are a fantastic pedal platform.

    Between 4 and 7 is where they really start to get that tone. But they are loud! I have a 71 and it's a phenomenal sounding amp! It's all in the application and there are ways of making this amp usable. Since it has a master volume mod, you're pretty much sorted. But don't let anyone tell you "it needs to be cranked". It obviously does if you want that sound but it's worth experimenting to see what suits you best.

    Hope this helps! And welcome to the forum!
     
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    ampmadscientist Well-Known Member

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    The majority of players who try to use these amps at low volume tell us:
    "tinny ice pick high frequencies."
    And they spend all the effort trying to get rid of the over-kill brightness.
    Then they spend a lot of money and effort trying to control the loudness.

    (the forum is full of these accounts) Maybe we are all full of shit, but somehow I doubt that.

    For those of us who do not use noisy cheap transistor effects pedals from China to try to correct the problem, a different amp to start with would have been a much better choice.

    Then you could have spent the time actually playing guitar, instead of fighting the stadium sized power of the amp.
     
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    :funny: Better tell Paul Gilbert he's doing it wrong so.
     
  12. 69ChevyP/U

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    I would buy it. Nothing beats old iron. Talking about thin tone, any newer amp will do that for you.. My 1/2 stack sounds thick and full in the house or out, my choice approach is a THD Hotplate, and I slam the front end with an Ibanez TS10 when it strikes me.

    I own a bunch of small amps too.
     
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    I think NMV era big Marshalls do well with attenuation. They still sound less compressed and more aggressive than, for e.g., an 18 watt. (I rarely use pedals).
     
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  14. NicolasB

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    :applause:
     
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    @NicolasB
    Please compare pics and note that pics are either not all of the same amp or are of the same amp at different points in time! Some pics show the Master Volume in one of the speaker jack holes and others do not! There are a couple other discrepancies also.
    Just Noticin'
    Gene
     
  16. NicolasB

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    Yes, I know the MV was installed after...
     
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    End of the story....You know what....Told him I buy it, We were ok for the price, just waiting for news, details of shipping, etc....the guy tells me today that the amp was sold....what to say????
    :wtf: Some people have an odd sense of business...
     
  18. Seanxk

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    It happens and it's not how you or we like to do business. But maybe the seller is on here too, or the new buyer is, or both.
    Really when things like this turn up you have to trust yourself and move on them, price dependent of course.
     

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