Setting Intonation on a Fender Stratocaster

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  1. SonVolt

    SonVolt Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    So I'm following Fender's official instructions on setting intonation on a 25.5" scale-length strat. What does "center of bridge saddle" mean exactly? I thought it meant the very center of the saddle where the string would feed through. Is that not the center? Because measuring from the inside of the nut 25.5" leaves me hovering right behind one of the bridge-plate screws, there's no way the bridge saddle can move forward enough for the center of it to reach exactly 25.5" from the inside-edge of the nut.

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    scat7s New Member VIP Member

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    the center of the saddles travel...within its adjustment range.

    thats how i would interpret it anyway.

    edit: at 25.5, it looks like you need to slide your saddle forward, so that where the string actually makes contact with the saddle is 25.5. it appears you have room to get there in the pic. right now your at 25 and 5/8. see what i mean?

    ps, your definitely measuring from the neck side of the nut, correct? not the headstock side?
     
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    What does that mean exactly?
     
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    I think they mean the hump of the saddle that the string rests on.

    Edit, scat edited while I posted, lol.
     
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    To be honest I have never once used a ruler to preset the saddles. Yours look close enough to get out your tuner and start fine tuning. There is a basic three-three pattern (which I have no idea how to describe in typing) that I start with...but it all just comes down to making fine adjusments later...even if that first fine adjustment is a BIG one.

    Just make sure you get the action th way you want it first.
     
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    sorry i keep editing, read it again.
     
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    66 galaxie Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Oh, and like Poeman said, that is kind of a ballpark. Use your tuner to get it right.:yesway:
     
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    Ok, so "center of saddle" should have read "center of saddle where string rests". Yes, I'm measuring from inside the nut.
     
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    once you get it all strung up and at proper tension, that dimension may shrink on you slightly as the neck gets pulled "in" AND your bridge potentially lifts, though i dont know how much. keep that in mind. :yesway:
     
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    I always thought that where the string rests is the saddle...not the whole part.
     
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    Where the string rests. I usually just eyeball it and then adjust with my Korg tuner in "strobe" mode, you can get pretty close with a little practice.
     
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    Thanks everyone. I guess either I'm dumb or it was a poor choice of words on Fenders part, probably both.

    All is good... i can't believe how amazing this Fender Blacktop Strat sounds. So beefy...
     
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    the wording confused me too.

    as soon as you posted the pic, it all made more sense.
     
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    Here's a video that might help a member with the most succulent and most flavourful avatar ever on this fine forum.:yum:

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    Don't bother measuring. Just use a good tuner and make sure the open, harmonic and fretted 12 are on pitch.
     
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    this!
     
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    I agree with the guys that say use your tuner. If you get your open, fretted (12th) and 5th and 12th fret harmonics nailed then you can't do any better.

    One thing I have always owned is a top notched tuner.
     
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    that!
     
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    5th fret harmonics only if you have a 24 fret guitar IIRC. I might be very wrong though.
     
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    Measuring from the nut to 12th fret and repeating that measurement from the 12th to the center of the allen screws has always gotten the first string nearly dead on for me. One way to do it. Tweak the others from there of course. A 24' Machinist rule comes in handy. :yesway: :wave:
     

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