Removing the top handle

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    stargazer76 Active Member

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    How do you remove the carry handle from a jcm 800 4104 combo? It's the all black version, I want to replace it with a gold vintage one.
    Do you just pry up the end covers with something? Very hesitant to force anything with out knowing.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    It is something like this. Remove the end caps and you will see the machine screws.


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    The problem remains....getting the end caps off. I pry them a reasonable amount without success. They don't just pop off. I get to the point where it seems I will break something.
    Do I ignore the instinct to stop prying?
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I had a look at mine and honestly you have more of a chance or breaking them off then removing them intact. It is like they were never meant to be removed from outside.
     
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    Maybe they slide off? I have no idea, it's just a guess from the picture of the parts, so take that with a grain of salt.
     
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    A fine tip screwdriver inserted from the center of the strap going towards the end of the cover, pry the cover up and off. The covers that don't have the through bolts are snap fit type.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I tried that a little while watching the cap. It looked as if the plastic would crack before it might pop off.
     
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    So why all the concern if you have a new handle?

    Rip it off...
     
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    Somebody wishes to buy the old one....
     
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    Oh, that's easy.

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    Compared to removing the tube sockets.
     
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    Micky Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Then have THEM remove it.
     
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    I did the same thing on a JCM 800 head last year or so. These black caps are tough to get off and there is a good chance it will crack, one of mine did. You can see in the pick posted below that there is one small clip on the end of the bracket BUT there is also one notch on each side of the bracket. This is what makes it tough. There are little prongs on the black cap that snap into those little slots. I learned to slide a putty knife up under the plastic cap to protect the tolex in that area. Then using a small screwdriver, try to pry away one side and at the same time with another screwdriver, pry up the end and it will usually pop off. IF it breaks, so what, your replacing it with the gold one. Good luck.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the ideas and suggestions. I didn't realize it would be such a challenge to get this thing off. For now the handle change goes onto the back burner....
     
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    If you have the new handle and really want to change it, just rip off the black caps, the gold handle will,fit right on, look better and make you happy. Just do it!
     
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    Hey StarGazer

    Here is a pic of the handle without the caps...

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    you need to get 2 small screwdrivers to get between the metal and the plastic on each side of the cap and then it will lift straight up

    (PS the Gold caps do not fit the 4104 handle parts... you need to replace all of the old 4104 handle parts with all of the vintage parts)

    I hope this helps

    seeya

    Joe
     
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    Push each cap in toward each other slightly. Each will move about 4-6mm, give or take, at which point the plastic cap tabs are no longer in the handle clamp slots, and they lift off with very little effort.
     
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    I know this is an older thread but I figured I'd update with a little more info in case some else needs to remove the handle. This is for an MG amp but might work for others too. I think what DmZ mentioned above is for a different amp as the metal bracket fits tight inside the cover so there is no room to push it forward and release.

    I tried sliding a small screwdriver in there to separate the cover from the bracket but it wasn't budging. Then I realized I was between the bracket and the strap and not the bracket and the cover. The edge of the bracket sits behind a flange at the end of the plastic cap. See pic below - the white line represents the metal bracket.

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    I slide a small screw driver on an angle over the top of the handle and down toward the slot, then took small needle nose pliers and gently pulled on the flange (making sure I didn't also grab the bracket) and the cap popped right off.

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    Hope this helps
     
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