Overated guitarists

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  1. scat7s

    scat7s New Member VIP Member

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    indeed
     
  2. TwinACStacks

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    Vex, Point taken. Technically yes Blackmore is a Better Player, it's the intangible that made JIMI great, not only his R&B fusion into a psychedelic Rock Genre' but you can hear it in examples like Machine Gun, Have you ever been to Electric Ladyland, the Long blues version of Voodoo child of JIMI'S ability to put his feelings, his very Heart and "Soul" if you will, into each Gut-wrenching note. I know of NO other Guitarist with the exception of maybe Page doing "Since I've been Loving You" where I personally have experienced this emotional impact.

    Sorry about the 16 yr. old wisecrack. We have so many come on this forum.

    Just my opinion though.

    :wave::wave: TWIN
     
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    CaptainZero Well-Known Member

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    Now THAT is funny! :lol::lol:

    I can't stand Jack White. That is all.
     
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    While I agree with 99% of your post I LOVE Buddy Guy just for the story of that crybaby druggie guy who BG got loaded and traded him out of his Strat.

    That being said, not a huge fan of his playing.
     
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    Hendrix - the OTHER reason there's a Marshall forum

    If you were alive during his lifetime , you GOT it !
    Ritchie Blackmore GOT IT . If he was here he'd tell ya . Hendrix if one of the few guitar players RB likes . There's a reason the 355 went away from most of DP after 1968.....
     
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    Simple: Clapton & Hendrix (although I appreciate the innovation)...

    I am not a huge Vai or Satch fan either. Appreciate them again for innovation, but they rely too much on FX...

    As I age I would almost have to put EVH in that category as well..

    Simply incredible innovation..but the playing lacks good composition or soul.

    I wish Eddie would put out an all guitar album with no stupid vocals for guitarists, and lay it all out. I would really be interested in hearing it!

    Also, as I revisit his early recordings, find his tone very compressed.
     
  7. sidvicious

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    here's what he could not and cannot do. there's a few ways to play blues when playing lead. lots of variances, yes, but a few basic things.

    you can rip the guitar a new ass. johnny winter. srv, frank marino, bugs henderson, clapton, alvin lee, ronnie robertson, trower, pete green, and lots others and unknowns, etc. BUT, you gotta know the start and stop, and appropriate gaps.

    or, you can lope with some melodic notes and some bends, working in and out of the melody. all the above and many others. on this, you need to know and be the lead in the turn-around.

    buddy guy can do neither. i like the guy and when it was my first show with him i was very excited, only to be very underwhelmed. in blues shows there is always the proverbial 12 bar jam. its easy, basic stuff. he can't do it. and forget something upbeat like crossroads.

    he can play, he just doesn't have licks.

    he's not a guitar soldier and the real hero's are. give'em a guitar and start a song, they can make it work.

    i played shows with winter and henderson, and others on those southern tours. look out; they'll take your head off. i've played some 80's metal with johnny winter and man, you talking about fun. bugs henderson [deceased in 2012] is one of the most unusual guys i've ever played with. he knew every lick ever played by any person. couldn't sing worth a shit.
     
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    i didn't get the white stripes but i do like jack white. in my opinion he's a good player and trys to stay pretty basic; not being overly dependant on gear.
     
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    Agreed. Jimi deserves the occolade. His studio stuff pales in comparison to his live work. Band of Gypsys, Woodstock,to name a few. This man changed the game forever. Hands down.

    Look at the King in action. Only Jimi could look cool doing this:
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    I loved Buddy Guy back in the day... all the Junior Wells stuff. Now... eh.


    I think he's trying to be who he thinks everybody thinks he is.
     
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    Curt Cobain
    Neil Young
    Eric Clapton
    Bruce Springsteen
    Jack White


    And Fukk could i go on & on .... and on
     
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    I can understand those, except Neil Young. No one talks much about his guitar playing. It's his writing that's the big deal. As a guitarist, he just is. As a writer, I'd say him and Bob Dylan are equals. Huge amoun of great work.
     
  13. HeHasTheJazzHands

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    Eric Clapton, Kurt Cobain, and Kirk Hammett are the top 3 for me.
     
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    Richie blackmore and eric Clapton are the 2 that for years I've struggled to see why they are rated so highly - I saw rainbow in the 80,s and found blackmore very disappointing......edit , I can't believe anybody would diss jimi-what ever sort of guitarist are you - leave the forum now - check out bold as love - check out band of the gypsies - check out his later stuff , just to get a feel of the magic he would have created in the 70's
     
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    Richie did influence a lot of neo-classical guitar styles. Even if you hate that style of music, there's quite a few players that play traditional hard rock and heavy metal that still have that style, like Randy Rhoads, or Wolf Hoffmann of Accept, who is extremely underrated, by the way.

    Not to mention, for his time, we was pretty damn skilled. He was doing something not many guitarists were doing at the time.
     
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    when I saw him live , all he seemed to do was 2 note bar chords ,and I found it dissapointing - but I know nothing of his acoustic music
     
  17. Marival

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6nR2aNO1pg]Rainbow - Difficult to Cure(Beethovens Ninth) - YouTube[/ame]

    2 note bar chord this.
     
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    not saying he isn't good , but I don't put him as the best , Hendrix , kossoff, and tommy bolin inspire me
     
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    Blackmore happens to inspire me. The difference is that I don't tell you to gtfo this forum because the same isn't true for you.
     
  20. TwinACStacks

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    :cool: I sure as hell got it. I KNOW you did as well Alvin. JIMI'S Heart and soul was not Rock, it was BLUES....

    :cool::cool: TWIN
     

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