Old School Lead 12. Best Bang For The Buck Ss.

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  1. mtm105

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    Are the Cabs any good??

    kinda hard to find, just cab(s).

    Here is what Vintage Guitar Magazine has to say about them:

    "Lead 12: The Little Screamer - Greater distortion at low volumes was also the goal of one of the most interesting amps Marshall released in the early '80s - the model 5005 Lead 12. A 12-watt transistor practice amp with a 10" Celestion, it retailed for under $200 and for many came surprisingly close to capturing the great, warm sound of the distorted Marshall amps of years gone by. It was a favorite of many working musicians, including luminaries like Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top. The Lead 12 proved to be enough of a hit with consumers that Marshall has continued to make transistor mini-amps. The '80s and early '90s saw the introduction of the tiny one-watt MS-2, the popular 3005 solidstate Micro-Stack (based on the 5005), and the 10-watt 8001 Valvestate Micro-Stack (part of a series of Marshall amps launched in '91 where all models with 40 watts or more used a 12AX7 tube in their preamps, to drive a solidstate power stage designed to sound and feel like an all-tube power amp), as well as numerous more high-powered combo amps, and even separate transistorized heads."

    Quote from "The History of Marshall" by Michael Doyle

    "...Naturally there are many modern Marshalls that can come close to approximating the Bluesbreaker sound but the most surprising one is the old 5005 (Lead 12) solid-state combo so beloved by Billy F Gibbons. He recorded such guitar greats as "My Head's in Mississippi" with this amp, and I am eternally in his debt for bringing it to my attention!."
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    Wonder if he used it for rythm or lead (or both), lead sounds like it could have been a different amp.
     
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    I've owned the Lead 12, 20, 30 and 75 Reverb, all combos. I still have, and gig with, the 5275.

    I found them, hands down, some of the best SS amps I had ever encountered. You could fool people all the time that they were tube amps by playing the start of You Shook Me All Night Long, Sharp Dressed Man or just about any Quo song you can name.

    Great amps. GREAT amps. The 50, 50 Reverb and 75 Reverb are very gig worthy.
     
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    +1 great amp! I have 2 a 1985 model thats sounds bigger than what it is and a 1995 with reverb. Highly recomend the older version.
     
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    I have two 5005's although, admittedly, I don't play them much at all.
     
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    I have a collection of 5-6 low Watt boutique Amps.

    i play at home at low volumes. after sitting out, I now have the Lead 12 back into my living room line up. It does munchy crunchy tone like none of the other Amps do. yes, there is a solid state character to the sound, which pales in comparison to the growl I get from this little monster.

    Tom Petty recorded Damn the Torpedos with a Vox Super Beatle SS. Hard to imagine that is the preferred tone. but it is. Fogerty & Kustom. any others?
     
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    sounds definite rhythm only.

    why Mississippi? lol
     
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    Searching Craigslist in my area, i find the Lead 12 mini stack. They seem to sit & people want about $300-400 for them. The holy grail for me is that Lead 12 head for like $50 - 100. That could be well worth it. But that's tough to come by. The amp by now is about 20 years old or so?
     
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    My very first amp was a Lead 12 combo. I thought it sounded great at the time, and even used to use it as a preamp for my Sunn Solarus. Alas, I sold it off in a gear purge.

    I've had a 5275 JCM800 series 75 Reverb since about 1990 or so. I believe it is one of the better solid state amps out there. It's powerful enough and tuneful enough to gig with, for sure. That said, there is a difference between the tube Matshalls and solid state, but the ss have their own vibe going.
     
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    To HAmmer:

    Thumbs up on the mosfet 100!

    Whats the amp above it?
     
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    There's a Lead 12 "Plexi" version and 2 custom cabs on Reverb......for nearly $2 000 USD (yes, TWO THOUSAND. 2k. Twenty hundred dollars. $2620 AUD).

    Wow. Just.....:orly:
     
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    Its rare but thats too much.
     
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    Thats my DSL40, i also have a 1983 Lead12 combo that im restoring, i just like the tone from those
     
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    my first marshall was a solid state 800 back in the 80's...an 83 model. that amp was a fat mean SOB. got bigger if you turned it up just like a well tuned tube amp.
     
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    Have you made a shootout on all those SS amps? looks like you have 3 maybe 4 different versions of the lead 12, one looks like an MG15 and one looks like a jubilee or something

    Ive thought about getting one of those little stacks, i have a set of vintage rola speakers pulled from an old organ from the 70s and they sound amazing. Full and well broke in. I put em in a 2X12 cabinet with 10" adaptor rings and was shocked how good they sounded.
     
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    The lead 12 mini stack speakers suck
    I just got a lead 20 which has a 35 wt Celestion and sounds much better than the lead 12s 25 wt. I also have a Bass 12 stack coming on Monday which has the same speakers as the lead 20.The lead 20 and Bass 12 use an 8imp speaker,so im going to hear what the lead 12 sounds like through one of the 35 wt 8 imp speaker. The pots and jacks on these amps always need a good cleaning.Also have a Class 5 that will run the lead 12 through with one of the other cabs but the speakers dont compliment themselves well.
     
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    JCM800 5275
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    I'm almost certain the combo I owned between the ages of 16 and 18 from '85 to '87 was a Lead 12. I traded it in in a shop for a 50W S/S Peavey. That Peavey served me well but do I wish I'd kept the Marshall. Collecting gear wasn't the done thing in those days.....
     

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