Marshall MA50 Review * Tone

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  1. JCM1959RR

    JCM1959RR New Member

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    Now for the tone. after I retubed & biased the amp I checked out the clean channel first. Nice crisp - clear Marshal cleans - you can also add a boost to the clean channel - it also has a master resonance for a tight or loose feel + master reverb & presence. Next the lead channel - lead 1 is decent - it has classic gain - you can get more saturation with the crunch balance - if you add the boost it sounds really thin & fuzzy. This amp reminds me of a poor mans DSL - in my opinion the clean channel was the best - I found no sonic surprises hidden in this box. It lacked that Marshall punch, feel & tone. It does have good volume for a 50 watt amp. In my honest opinion I would rather buy a used DSL or TSL. Is this something that I would keep? probably not. I would recommend trying this out in a music store before buying. I was disappointed that It had (2) bad tubes & it blew a fuse within the 1st (3) minutes of use. Marshall needs to have more qualtiy control
     
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    wkcchampion New Member

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    Sincerely, what did u expect from an amp made in Vietnam?
    I'd rather get a Bugera - no I'm not going to get either....
     
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    JCM1959RR New Member

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    I agree but you have to keep an open mind & try things out - with a closed mind you will never discover anything new - just one mans opinion
     
  4. HOT TUBES 70

    HOT TUBES 70 Well-Known Member

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    FWIW ...i thought the same about this amp , it just does not stack up to the
    others in this price range etc . and that pains me to say cause i'm a huge Marshall fan !!
     
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    I tried this thing out for about 25 mins the other day and honesty i liked the clean channel, but just could not get the OD channel to do what i wanted at all. This amp disappointed me... There are alot nicer amps for that price..
     
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    I was thinken to buy the MA50H but i read now a few negative things about the amp.
    What amp do you suggest in this price.

    arthur
     
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    I forgot what the MA amps cost, but I do remember liking the cleans but finding myself cringing at the overdriven/gain channels. I won't exaggerate: I hated it.
     
  8. GoldtopSam

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    I purchased the MA50H. After chucking the stock preamp and power tubes and replacing all with JJ 12AX7A in V1 12AX7 for stage two and phase inverter, EL 34 power tubes and a good bias, it wakes up nicely kicking into a 1960A with G12T-75s or my 1960A with G12M Greenbacks. More mid punch with the 75s, good 'looseness' with Greenbacks. Tried KT77s, but was way to bassy, so went back to 34s. Now it doesn't have the crunch of my JCM800 master volume, but it's not bad. The clean channel is good, with pretty fair definition. The lead channel is workable with the new tubes and bias, not fizzy. I have had no problems with mine. Has a five year warranty. Yea, it was made in 'Nam, but sems these days, China and other Asian lands seem to be the place us poor working lads can get an amp without breaking the bank. Sure I'd love to see American and English amp makers building decently built affordable amps in their respective lands, But it appears big government and high costs seem to force these companies to go where they get big tax breaks from Asian governments to set up shop and create jobs, albeit a cheap labor force(fair QC, but improving)and also creating higher profit and the likelihood of these jobs never returning. But politics ain't my game, music is. So I don't care if it comes from Papua, New Guinea, as long as it works well and I can squeeze tone out of it, with a bit of tweaking. These amps work. As for the long haul we'll see. I've had it out on three gigs so far, no probs.
     
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    Fair write up. Thanks. :wave:
     
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    diesect20022000 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I have a SNEAKING suspicion the MA is a re modeled 900 ala DR. the clips i've heard were VERY much the same other than the newer version with the a$$ bleeding gain boost.
     
  11. kingbee

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    I've been using mine since January gigging almost every weekend. Holding up fantastic and sounds AWESOME!!!!! :dude:
     
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    MA series are not your typical "out of the box" great Marshall sound, they require a bit of tweaking and overdrive pedal in effects loop as clean boost to get rid of that fizzy gain ( I have no idea why this works, my SD-1 set for clean boost just kills all the fizzy top end and makes it smooth ), and they are great pedal platform for people that use distortion from pedals. After those tweaks I think that sound improves dramatically, and MA begins to shine, I mean it's a full valve Marshall, there has to be a good sound somewhere inside. :)
     
  13. GoldtopSam

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    @ Nebulozny. There is good tone in there. I have a Super Lead 100, a JCM800 master volume, a JMP and an MA 50H. Now it's easy to say these are junk because they are not a true English built Marshall. they are made in Vietnam, the same place the awful MG series comes from. Early Marshalls were not always the most reliable, with the sometimes very naughty and unreliable Dagnall transformers, varying sourced components. This is why it is sometimes said no two Marshalls sound the same. My JMP is gorgeous sounding, but was a naughty boy now and again, so I stopped taking him out on gigs, until I had him gone through, to find out, he had problems with the power supply and this was from the factory years ago when he was built! Now, after a good refurbish to the power supply, he behaves nicely on gigs again. The MA appears to work well after re-tubing and biasing. Have a chat with Bob at eurotubes.com. I use mine with minimal effects and it seems to be pretty good. At 700.00US, I think they are a bit pricey for 50 watts, but better than a Bugera, that have a nasty tendency to take out their own power transformers and are highly unreliable. Bugera seems to copy the Peavey 5150 and 6505 designs with the 6260 and the 6262, and the 333XL seems to copy the the XXX. And now they seem to be wandering into Mesa Boogie territory with the 85 watt Magician. Trouble is they don't do it very well, and how they've avoided lawsuits is truly beyond me. But as for the Marshall MA50H, I've had no trouble so far, knock wood. :)
     
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    I would not mind to try a MA series, but the Bugera's are sh*t as far as quality goes. I am going to wait a while and see if the MA series will prove to be reliable. I am thinking they could be a good modable platform:naughty:??

    The drawback is that a used DSL will cost less so I will probably shoot for that...
     
  15. kingbee

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    Mine doesn't require a pedal in the effects loop to get rid of fizz. Mine sounds great all by itself and has been very reliable. Mike Estes of Blackfoot (also played in Lynyrd Skynyrd among other things) thought it sounded great when my band opened up for them a couple of months ago!
     
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    @kingbee. I agree. I'm not getting that fizzy sound. The only thing in my FX loop is a digital delay. This amp is rather picky about OD pedals on the clean channel. Did not like the SD-1, TS9, Sparkle Drive. Very thin. Liked the Zendrive, Mosferatu and the Fulldrive II. But I don't use a whole lot of effects anyways. The only thing is I'm waiting to see how she does down the road. I have a Crate V50 made in 'Nam. All I did to that was swap out the crap speakers and put two Celestion V30s, new tubes and bias(they run a little hot). I've been using that thing constantly for six years without a hiccup. So we'll see.
     
  17. GoldtopSam

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    Palomino V50, I should say
     
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    I'd like to play through an MA head sometime, to see how they work for me. I've read a lot of mixed reviews on them :hmm:
     
  19. Nebulozny

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    That's weird, how come I have that fizzy thing going on in boost channel :hmm:
    Well anyway, SD-1 cured that, I will maybe swap speakers for some better ones, all in all I am happy with the sound I have now and my MA is working for 8 months without problems.
     
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