Marshall JCM800

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  1. Scott Wurst

    Scott Wurst New Member

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    Been looking at getting a JCM800. I currently have a DSL40C which I run as a combo or through a 8412 full stack. I can play it on the 20watt setting at home through the stack with volume at about 8 and gain at about 3-4 but don't run it on the 40watt setting. Now onto the 800. What would everyone recommend for gigging small clubs and some outdoor gigs and to use at home in a small studio? Ive heard that the 20watt classics are pretty good but afraid it won't be enough for gigging and the 100watt worried it will be too much for home and studio. Also which would you recommend the 2203, 2204, 2205, or the 2210? Or a reissue 2203? Sucks that there isn't any stores to try them out around here. How about some input on what some of you all are doing. Oh and I play Guns N Roses, Aerosmith, Thin Lizzy AC/DC type tones. Thanks.
     
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    Have you considered the 2555x? It will get you the GnR sound easily and can do those other sounds also.
     
  3. Scott Wurst

    Scott Wurst New Member

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    No I haven't thought about one of those. Have to look one up and see if there are some comparisons.
     
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    If you are worried that the 20 won’t be enough for outdoor gigs, bring your dsl40c, set up as 2 half stacks, put th 40c on full power green clean, and fx send off of the SC 20 to instrument in on the 40c!
    Cheers Mitch
     
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    Depending on venue, the 20SC is plenty loud.
     
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    Was going to suggest exactly this that Mitch said. Yeah, what Mitch said!
     
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    What component of this are you playing?

    The cleaner parts, or the dirty?
     
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    Scott Wurst New Member

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    Trying to get that dirty crunch sound.
     
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    Sounds to me like Mitch has the perfect solution, get the SC20 for the studio and indoor gigs, and and use both the SC20 and your Dsl40 for outdoor gigs.

    If you’re playing a lot of outdoor gigs maybe a 2203 would be a better choice. And use your Dsl40 for indoor gigs and studio work.

    Just my :2c:,....
     
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    marshallmellowed Well-Known Member

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    I would think that anyone playing outdoor gigs would be using a PA, in which case, the size (power) of the amp becomes pretty much irrelevant. If this is not the case, then pursuing the purchase of a PA for outdoor gigs might be something to consider.
     
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    Get the real deal and a attenuator. Small amps never sound big.
    Thank me later.
     
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    Yay !!! PA !!!
     
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    Scott Wurst New Member

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    Yes Sir Don. That is what I'm thinking.
     
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    I think you'd be good with any of the 2203,2204,2210, or 2205 JCM800 models.
    I've been using my 2204 lately and really enjoying it. I put a mic on one speaker into the P.A. mix that we can set where we want
    and a 4 x 12. They're all sort of different from one another but any of them will do the classic to hard rock thing in exceptional fashion.
     
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    20 watts wont cut it for outdoor gig. 100 watt 2203 all the way. a 2203 will play medium and large size clubs with good tone at decent volumes. run a patch cord through efrect loop or a eq and youll get that boost and attack without being too loud. IMO
     
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    In the old days:
    the PA was for vocals only. The guitar needed to be self-amplified for the whole venue, therefore 100 watt amps 8X12 speakers.

    In the new days:
    The PA carries all the sound including guitars. The amp uses a microphone. The whole stage gets guitar from the monitors.
    Therefore 100 watts could be overkill.
    A big loud guitar amp will bleed into the vocal and drum mics.
    Also a smaller amp cranked way up / mic thru the PA.... sounds better than a big amp turned way down. Covers seats better too.

    So the answer may really be that you need smaller amps, and a good PA system with monitors.

    But if you look at it the other way, JCM800 2203/2204 was the basis for all the modern amps sold today, every manufacturer copied it because it was a ground breaking idea.
     
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    Crikey Well-Known Member

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    I'd say 1 out of 10 clubs in the Virgina/North Carolina area has a decent sound system and or sound guy but that maybe even stretching it a bit. I still find that in most clubs even with a soundman that its best to get a good guitar level/ sound and build around it. Micing more of the vocals, bass and kick drum and a bit of snare and hi hat. get the 2203 or 2204 and enjoy. You never need more amp. Bigger places and you get to stretch it out a bit.
     
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    If you go with a 2303 or a 2204, you could always get an attenuator to use for smaller venues!
     
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    Scott Wurst New Member

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    Yes I have been taking that into consideration. I agree with you.
     
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