Marshall 100W Super Lead heavy metal tone. How?

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  1. ricksconnected

    ricksconnected Well-Known Member

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    how do you know how he plays?
     
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    my crystal balls told me.
     
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    That is quite true but the era BWOHM did have overdriven sounds, not extreme .
     
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    booger, you wanna touch them..hmm?
     
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    No !!!
    for sure not that one!!
    you can do a few things there

    option 1
    put a Tube screamer , a Rat and pair it a an extra booster pedal and that gonna be heavy.


    option 2

    get a Friedman , Diezel or REVV pedals they are bad ass

    option three
    Eq + booster + overdrive or distortion pedal (even a Ds-1 will i did the trick with my fiend fender amp and i was blown away how heave sound it)
     
  8. Filipe Soares

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    option 4 send it to michael audette or make the one cable mod yourself.
     
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    Have you given up on the idea of a stock Superlead providing modern metal tone yet ?

    Metallica is not modern metal tone.

    EVH/VH 1 is not modern metal tone.

    These are examples of "Metal" tones of 30-40 years ago.

    If you want Modern Metal tone then stop playing the old Superlead and get something along the lines of an Engl.

    I have a 1973 Marshall Superlead that I rebuilt and I like it very much.

    But I don't play modern metal type music.
     
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    Here's a short vid of one of my young customers playing an amp I built (a Sound City 120 gut and rebuild job) who is playing along with a drum track in a modern metal style called "Grind".

    A stock Marshall Superlead won't sound like this no matter what pedal you put in front of it.

    This is a very tight, compressed, Hi Gain type of tone that isn't anything like what EVH or Metallica used over a whole generation ago.

    This is what Modern Metal is like now:



    Also, the Hiwatt DR103 under the amp cover in the background of the vid wouldn't sound like this either---- even though it's a very nice big vintage amp.
     
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    I agree, but I must say that my major with the one cable mod is in the same ballpark with my engl and my 5150iii.
     
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    I had an old 50w plexi, and if you jumper the channels and dime everything with your guitar tuned between B and D somewhere you have IMO the epitome of metal tone! Maybe more like Down than Pantera but about as much gain as I would ever want...

    Add a good pedal like an OCD or and you should be able to get a bit more boost/gain depending on your need, but the straight amp will cut better in a mix imo
     
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    JVM 410 does it all.
     
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    If you're looking for the "drop tuned djent modern metal" tone, which I refer to as "knothead metal" since a large percentage of its practicioners sometimes tie their long hair up in a man bun, which is a knot, hence, "knothead", and most of them ARE knotheads anyway, then modding a vintage Marshall is something I would strongly advise against. No need to ruin a nice amp to make trash noises like that. Buy something made for that job if you actually want that tone.

    If you're looking for a classic and tasteful 80s metal tone, it usually involved a Bradshaw rack, a modded amp, and certain distortion pedals. Steve Stevens used a Rat into a Plexi driving cabinets full of vintage Greenbacks to get that cranked, square wave crushing tone in the break in "Eyes Without a Face".

    A big part of those signature 80s metal tones was the usage of 1/3 octave graphic equalizers to make some very distinctive and colorful tones. I highly recommend using just such a device in your own signal chain. And take the time to play with it. EQ is what differentiates the sound of many amplifiers from many other amplifiers.
     
  16. Exotic

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    well instead of the amp or pedals ,have u thought of speakers? be careful ur head might explode right now

     
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  17. South Park

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    Something different is is what you want .
     
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    YMMV depends on what you consider "metal".

    Hot pickups and overdrive pedals will generally be involved. Maybe mods.
     
  19. South Park

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    Real modern metal is digital.
     
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    First thing to ask is which version of the superlead 100w amp is it, what spec and what mods has it done before?
    As David said early on no-one should mod one of these unless it is done carefully and reversibly.
    They can do modern downtuned metal very well with a few tweaks, maybe not Engl or SS Peavey goosed with two tubescreamers but still......

    Show us what you have got first!
     
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