So I know this topic might generate a heated discussion, but I'll start it anyway. When it comes to products, most of us are used to them being made in China nowadays. Laptops, TVs, Micro Wave Ovens etc. We live in a globalized world at this day and age, and products are being made with cheap labour and low quality to ensure huge profit margins and fuel for our throwaway mentality. This is however not what I wanna talk about. I wanna talk about the world of music instruments and gear. Ever since I started getting more serious about the stuff we use to create music, I have found that the country of origin matters a lot to a lot of people, especially when it comes to music gear. I won't lie, I used to be one of them and still am. But lately my point of view has started to change a bit. Now let's not focus on the "good old times" when they used to make the good stuff. Everyone knows what it means to have an old made in England Marshall, made in U.S.A. Gibson etc. I'm talking about nowadays. And specifically the mid price sector, so no custom built boutique guitars and amps that cost a couple of grand. We all know how much shit Gibson has been getting lately from a lot of people, and their guitars all say made in the US. Then there are a lot of companies like Jet City, Bugera and even Thomanns house brand Harley Benton that produce in China and get very good feedback from customers. My personal experience with guitars has been that you shouldn't look at the back of the headstock, you should pick it up and play it. I had great results with made in Mexico Charvels and Fenders, played a few made in Indonesia Ibanez RGs and even owned one and pretty much all of the older made in Japan Jacksons have impressed me, the newer Indonesia models not so much. Then I tried a lot of ESP/LTD guitars and damn, these guys know their job! Played a lot of expensive Gibsons I didn't care for. Some of them felt cheaper compared to the afforementioned guitars. Tried a few PRS SE models people rave about, have been unimpressed. Then one I day I had a 2500 dollar Duesenberg in my hands and it was meh. Regarding amps I have an ENGL Savage 60 from 94 I bought used for 150 bucks. It needed service as it was making popping noises and would cut out and then cut back in, I purchased it solely because the price was low, the trannies were working and I wanted to fix it and either keep it or sell it for a profit. The amp says "made in Germany". My amptech called me up, said it would be too expensive to fix the flaw on it and I'd be off cheaper if I send it straight to ENGL in Germany and have them repair it as they'd do it fast and cheap since it's their own amp. Had a bit of a tech talk and he sent me some pictures of the innards, flimsy and thin PCB construction, tiny pots mounted straight to the board etc. The amp sounds great, but on the inside, hell the Jet City amps are built better. My Peavey Valveking was a chinese amp and held up great all those years before I sold it, gigged it left and right and the only times it needed service was when one of the output tubes blew. My tech told me it's built sturdily and reliable. Yeah the sound might not have been the best, but I was able to coax out a good tone easily, especially with a good cab and a boost pedal. Then I have my JCM 2000 that sounds great but looking at the insides I wonder when it breaks how much will it cost me to get it fixed? My point being, if I had a couple of grand to spend I'd get myself a high end guitar and amp, custom shop or handbuilt. If I was just starting out though and had a certain budget, I'm sure a cheaper guitar and amp would get the job done. And would they really be that much less reliable than the midpriced stuff that isn't being built overseas? Discuss!