Looking for Speakers That Aren't Flabbly on The Bottom End

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  1. Ron Anchak

    Ron Anchak Member

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    I'm currently trying to downsize my rig. At the moment I'm going between a 2525H and a SC20H. I'm leaning towards the SH20H, it has a cleaner break up and a bit more defined tone. I play mostly classic rock and rocking country (if that's an actually description).

    I play Flying Vs with BB2 in the bridge and BB1 in the neck. I'm currently using a 1936 cab with two V30s. I'm using an OCD on the front end of the amp to help get the SC20H to get into the distortion area. What I don't like is my Low E string is not defined, it's sort of flabby. I have my pickups lowered which has helped. I'm not sure if some of this is the tonal quality of the cab, my cab is MDF not BB. I want that mid range bump and I don't know if the BBs are some of the problem or maybe I should try a different speaker.

    I know this is a long rambling thread.

    Here's what's important:

    Tone at a low volume - below 100dB
    Sustain, crunch, clarity
    I'm pretty set on a 212 cab, not set on the amp yet

    Any help would be greatly appreciated
     
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    Could try to brace and seal the cab
     
  4. Ron Anchak

    Ron Anchak Member

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    I'll look for a 1966 cab or another 1936 JCM800 cab first. I'm not to excited about the MDF cab I have
     
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    I've never seen these before. I'll have to check them out
     
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    Kinkless Tetrode Well-Known Member

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    Just telling you straight up, V30s are already about the least flabby bottom speakers out there.
     
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    Maybe try a different OD pedal? I don't have an SC20 but I did have an OCD and used it with a DSL 20 and a SV20. It sounded ok but a little too beefy on the bottom. Then I got a Wampler Tumnus Deluxe...….It kicks the amp but doesn't change the tone.
     
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    Start the reactor. free Mars!
    A lot of this is the amp itself, not just a speaker.
    Although obviously a good speaker is worth what you are paying for it. It helps a lot to use a good professional speaker, there's no question of that fact.
     
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    Is that supposed to be like a vintage G12-65?
     
  10. Ron Anchak

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    Well tonight the SC20H doesn’t sound that great. Last night it was my pick over the 2525H. One thing I did on the 2525H was pull out the clipping switch, this helped to eliminate a small amount of the flubbyness. Still not 100% happy, but an improvement.

    I tried a TS9DX, I don’t care for it in the TS9 mode, in the plus mode it’s not bad for a slightly over driven sound. I really don’t like my J Rocket Archer pedal, it just doesn’t work with this amp.

    Anyone got a 1966 or older 1936 cab for sale? I wonder if the MDF is causing some of the tone that I don’t care for.
     
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    just out of curiosity, how are you using the TS? To push the front of the amp?

    Edit: what settings are you using on the TS? It’s been my experience that a gain below 9 o’clock on the pedal, level max makes the TS shine. Apologies if this is indeed the way you are already using it, just trying to help.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    People are quick to blame the speaker but it it always the amplifier(s) or signal with too much emphasized bass frequency.

    What are all the controls settings on each amplifier?
     
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    The V30 is not a flabby speaker. Rock electric guitar is a mid-range instrument, not a full-frequency range instrument. It should be EQ'd to emphasize what it does well. In a band situation the guitar should sit in its tonal area and let the bass guitar and drums take care of the bottom. A deep bass-y guitar will get lost in the mix.

    Playing alone, we want to hear that full-range sound. I do. We all do. And it can be done to a point. It is easier to achieve a deep bass with a clean tone. The more gain/distortion, the harder it is to maintain a deep, tight bass tone.
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    I like enough bass to give it body. Too much of anything is never a good alternative.

    I want my signal clean (although dirty you know) and mean.
     
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    Agreed. I suspect something else is causing the "flabby-ness"...
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Too much Chick-fill-A, perhaps.
     
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    Is there such a thing?
     
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    mickeydg5 Well-Known Member VIP Member

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    Chick-fill-A is like the Burger King of chicken. I stay away.

    If I want a burger I go to a real burger joint.
    The same goes for chicken, and steak, and crabs and lobster.
     
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    Emtbreid Well-Known Member

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    Man, they must be bad near you. Here in central MD they are fantastic ! As far as fast food goes.
     
  20. Ron Anchak

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    Presence 5.25
    Bass 5.5
    Middle 4.75
    Treble 5.5
    Master 10
    Volume 2
    Gain 8


    Tube Screamer
    Drive 5
    Level 2
    Tone 8

    If I lower the bass on the amp everything gets thin sounding.

    Chords sound great. Single notes on the low E aren’t exactly great.
     

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