Jcm2000 TSL 100

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  1. Gogo

    Gogo Member

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    Hi,

    I have a problem with settings tone for hard rock/rock on my marshall tsl100 head - cabinet Orange 212 V30. Every tone is like metal tone. Somebody help me with settings tone?
     
  2. Adieu

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    Guitar? Pickups? Try fiddling with guitar's volume and tone controls?

    Pedals, try using any? Or try not using any?
     
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  3. Gogo

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    Prs with humbuckera classic 57 and burstbucker2, and I use volume and tone controls and only booster mxr no more stomp.
     
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    The Dose of Harmony Well-Known Member

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    the TSl's are just Mad Animals!
    Full of rage and fury !!!
    to tame the beast change tubes but the two previous post are right too!
    one time i put a Genalex gold lion and V1 and tamed a lot too pussy for me !!
     
  5. thunderstruck507

    thunderstruck507 Well-Known Member

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    Use the crunch channel and turn the gain down to below noon. Then roll the treble and presence down.

    Make sure the mid shift button isn't pressed.
     
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    You can try putting 5751's in V1 and V2 as well.
     
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  7. thunderstruck507

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    The best tube I had at the time for v1 was a Sovtec.

    Once I got my JCM 800 it had a lot of brightness/harshness I wanted to tame so I tried a new old stock RFT branded as an Ultron and it instantly did what I wanted. It might work very well in the TSL too.

    The mids are weird on the TSL too in my opinion so I tried to keep them as low as I could without it sounding scooped. This was typically just under noon or so if I remember correctly. I think I ran the treble at about 9-10 oclock and used presence to taste to add some highs back...I also added some highs back with my overdrive.

    I use a Black Arts Toneworks Black Forest overdrive which has very powerful bass and treble EQ adjustments. It was a god send for the TSL because it could thicken up the lead channel and the highs helped get a brighter tone that wasn't harsh on the crunch channel.
     
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    This ^

    I do this with any medium or high gain amp I buy. To me it makes quite a difference. I’ve also used 12AT7 preamp tubes if a 5751 doesn’t tame the gain quite enough for my likes.
     
  9. Lance Chambers

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    Well, it is a metal amp. :band:

    Try using the green channel with an OD in the front.
     
  10. Gogo

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    I have tubes in V1 TAD 7025 Highgrade WA and V2 Tad ECC83 WA, V3 and V4 Marshall ECC83 tubes, EL34 Marshall stock.
    Yesterday I change V1 on ThungSoul ECC83, hmmm ..... maybe a little better but I want rock tone.
     
  11. Jethro Rocker

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    The tubes shouldnt matter that much. Dont use any pedals at all to start with. Use channel 2 with tne tone shift OUTas mentioned and set tne gain around 5 and see. What do you mean by rock tones?? Old Scorpions?? Zepplin?? ACDC which is really a crunch type tone??

    You mention only booster mxr no other pedals. Dont use a booster for rock tones unless you mean modern rock old metal.
    I can get decent hard rock (notice I said HARD rock) tones with gain about 7 on channel 2 and it actually cleans up a fair bit as I drop guitar volume down. If gain is around 5 it shoild do it, perhaps even a bit less.

    Have you tried this? What happens??
     
  12. Lance Chambers

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    My thoughts exactly! It's a MARSHALL..........famous for rock tones. How can a player not get good rock tones from it? :coffee:
     
  13. Gogo

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    tone ACDC would be nice:) but I thing not this amp

    my settings
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    OD - bass-4, mid-5, treble-5, gain-4.5, rev-4, pres-3, tone shift out, deep out
    lead - bass-5, mid-6, treble-5, gain-5, rev-4, pres-3, tone shift out, deep out
    clean - bass-5, mid-5.5, treble-4, gain-3, rev-3, pres-3, tone shift out, deep out

    any ideas?
     
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    ACDC is a crunch to me. Do you find it too much gain at 4.5 on channel 2? Then lower it.
    Try channel 1 with gain near the top too.
    If its still too much then do the pre amp tube change to a lower gain tube like a 12AY7 or AU7.
     
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    thanks

    I'll check tommorow
     
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    I got great AC/DC tones with the gain on about 3 on channel 2. Then I used a MXR overdrive set as a clean boost (volume up, gain off) to add some bite and sustain.

    If you are playing loud enough you shouldn't even need the boost for that, but I was keeping master volume at 2-3 which while it was loud, it wasn't enough to drive the amp well. My TSL liked to be LOUD before it really started rocking. My 800 is better at low volume surprisingly.
     
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    How do you like that KK amp? :drool:
     
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    With the higher gain sounds the TSL sounds excellent at 2 or 3 on channel volumes.
     
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    If he's going for this kind of grind he won't get it out of a TSL without using pedals through the clean channel, or some kind of mods.
     
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    It should. Lower gain on channel 2 or high gain on channel 1. To me that sounds barely breaking up. Not sure what OP is after as he mentioned hard rock/rock at one point.
     
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