So, the answer to my question is...……...depends on who you ask, LOL! Ok, maybe you 800 guys can answer this one. Was the 2205 a turd? I know it suffered from the "can hear the clean ch thing" but besides that, was it the worse sounding 800? Back in the early 2000's I had at one time a 1987X, JCM 800 2205, a 6100LE, JCM 900 DR w/5881s, and a Jubilee 2553. At that time I liked the 6100LE and the 2553 the best. I remember thinking the 900 sounded thin and weak and to me the 2205 sounded real mushy, with no clarity or note definition. Maybe I had a bad one? For raw dirty tones, the Jubilee smoked them all. A short while afterwards the DSL came out and I liked it better than all the previous amps. To me, at the time, the DSL was similar to both the 6100LE and the 2553. Not maybe better but more user friendly and in the same ball park. So, I ended up selling off all those amps eventually. Of course right before they all sky rocketed in price So, today the JCM 900 I have now is an EL34 version (early '93) and I don't think it sounds as bad as the one I had years ago. I prefer my DSL over it and think about selling. But, should I wait a few years when these sky rocket in price??? Or, will they?? Back when I sold my 2553, about two years later they were going for double what I sold mine for. I would hate to do that again!